56 points

Is that how you are supposed to read paper books?

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Lol I read all three formats. I have shit ton of physical books in my home and I have a serious buying issue where always buying more books and read them. And thanks to my library I have a Libby account and so far read over 26 books just through my kindle alone. Lastly I listen to audiobooks anytime I behind the wheel commuting to work or just driving. I just love to read and also love to write.

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7 points

Interesting diatribe that doesn’t answer the question at all lol

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5 points

Clearly you don’t read enough books… Like, bro, she’s clearly absorbing the contents of the book through diffusion. If you don’t know how to do this then you’re clearly not in our league.

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4 points

Obviously they are using osmosis via the ocular membrane… I was confused about why they needed a scarf. Reading that way uses a lot of energy and should generate copious amounts of heat via friction.

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2 points

I read exclusively through diffusion. Two years on and I’m on page 22 of the first Harry Potter book.

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48 points

e-reader were a gamechanger for me.

on one side they are super convinient, because of the backlight alone.

on the other side: piracy

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17 points

libgen is awesome

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1 point

It makes me proud that my gf used to have (I think it is busted now) a telegram bot to download books from zlibrary, as an iPhone user that was very convenient, but now she doesn’t.

My Android app works pretty fine though, so I just sent her the books there.

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TIL theres an android app, awesome!

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the telegram bot is not available anymore but there’s a workaround, if you make an account on zlib website and go to “edit profile” page there’s a button at the bottom to get a personal telegram bot

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4 points

on the other side: piracy

I just want to point out that there are libraries full of physical books that you can also get for a significant amount of time and you don’t have to pay for them. And of the library doesn’t have the book you want, they can probably get it for you from another library.

(They also often offer ebooks and audiobooks, but that’s another issue.)

Unless you want to keep the book with you, one of the nice things about paper books is that you don’t have to pirate them and you can get far more obscure titles than you’d probably ever find on a pirate site.

I’m not criticizing you for pirating books, I totally get it, I’m just very pro-library.

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4 points

on the other side: piracy

I understand and encourage this, but I wonder, is there any “Steam” for books? In the meaning of “oh, this service is so good that actually I don’t want to bother to pirate them!”

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8 points

amazon on kindle is very convienient. But I don’t want to support jeff bezozs, which is why I like piracy. Also amazon makes it really easy to pirate. You just send the pirated copy to you kindle email-adress, and amazon uploads the pirated ebook to your kindle. I have done this for about 10 years, and I like to image, that Jeff sheds a single tear each time I do this.

On the other hand there are many public libraries with a steam-like service. e.g. you pay your regular library fee (2€ iirc) and you can download all the books you want to your e-reader. The catch is, that you can only keep a certain number of digital copies at the same time for some reason. The other down side is, that the initial setup takes some time (but I guess that depends on the library? idk it was >5 years ago when I did some research in that direction).

If someone knows more about the public-library-ebook-service, please let us know.

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Amazon has about 1.5 million employees.

When you buy something from them, you’re also supporting those people, as well as the stockholders, and the book’s author.

If you’re looking for the human effect of buying something from Amazon, focusing on Jeff Bezos is somewhat arbitrary.

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some publishers don’t use DRM so there’s that, otherwise I guess there’s overdrive which is… not that good, and requires library card but it’s free

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24 points

Audio books. When I have a book in my hand, I try to reach for a screen.

When I have a screen, I waste time with games/Lemmy/Youtube/Netflix etc instead of reading books.

But I can listen to audio books when I am walking/driving/cooking etc.

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i’m similar but for me i prefer physical books because if i’m reading a physical book i’m probably not sitting near any of my devices so there’s less chance i’ll get distracted lol

but audio book is a strong second because ya i can do other stuff while listening to it, the same way i listen to podcasts and stuff

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23 points

I adore real life books, but I read at night whilst my partner sleeps. The backlit ereader is an absolute delight.

I also disagree with calling audio books “reading”.

I’m not saying is is a worse way to experience the content of the book, and I enjoy it myself, but it is a fundamentally different experience based on different senses and different mechanisms.

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As someone who had an almost decade-long gap between Wheel of Time books because my ADHD no longer permitted book reading at a certain point, I would respectfully disagree. Audio books have been a God Send in the last few years, discovering I can still enjoy past pleasures in full by exploiting myself in circumstances that are beneficial. Audio books have me back part of my life I had accepted as lost forever.

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13 points

Yeah, you miaunderstand me.

You can still enjoy the content, but the process isn’t reading that’s all.

I enjoy them too. Audio books are great. Several members of my family are blind and it is a form we can enjoy.

Interestingly the fact that several people can enjoy an audiobook at once supports my argument that it is not reading… A somewhat solo pursuit unless someone reads aloud.

So, respectfully, I think you’ve got the wrong end of this stick.

But I do want to say that it gives me genuine pleasure that you’ve found a way to enjoy those stories.

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Would you say that someone reading printed out lyrics is listening to music?

Maybe if they were looking at a musical score? Is that listening to music?

I’d suggest it is a way of experience it. But it certainly isn’t listening to it.

I think reading is the same.

Audio books are not worse, not lesser, but they are different and that’s why I’d say they are not reading.

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18 points

Ereaders definitely. I hate audiobooks because they take so long to read, I prefer listening to music when travelling. And physical books take up so much physical space, besides ebooks’ added benefits such as customisable brightness for reading in the dark, remembering the page, highlighting and copying/defining/searching for text, and more.

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