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How can they “force” anything if you dont sign? By not agreeing to new terms… you dont agree to the terms. Wouldnt having it any other way just be insanity? Like i could write “contract” here that by viewing it you agree to it and if you dont agree, i could still claim that some part of it applies because it reads so in the contract. Or I have some other contract that is agreeable and someone signs it, then I change the terms and other party can’t reject them all because of something in the first contract.

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Internet companies usually have clauses that they can terminate the agreement at any time for any reason, including “because they feel like it”. They usually don’t have to tell you why, either.

Same deal with all the “licensing” things and “digital goods ownership”. In two words: you don’t.

But it’s been that way for ages.

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People don’t read the contracts, so companies just exploit that habit.

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Especially if it’s something free or subscription based. It’s just a “our rules have changed, if you don’t like it stop using it/paying for it”

It’s get very dodgy when it’s a physical thing you’ve bought like that Roku agreement a few weeks back, but I doubt they’ll let that stop them.

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They can just put in the initial contract a clause that basically they can change the contract as they see fit, when they see fit, and if you don’t like it, too bad.

That pretty much wipes out a lot of recourse for most people when it comes to changes in costs and services.

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As my lawyer used to tell me, “there is the contract and there is the law.” Meaning anyone can say anything in a contract. If you have the legal ability you can find out what the law says about it.

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This doesn’t affect me, because I stopped buying Blizzard’s shit games after the BnetD lawsuit.

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For me it was during the development of Diablo 3 when Blizzard acted like a bunch of children over community comments/concerns about the art style/direction of the game. I don’t feel like I’ve missed out on much, honestly.

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“Maybe if Activision gets bought by Microsoft, Blizzard won’t be as scummy.”

Hahaha, nope.

Between the company rape culture and enabling internet & gambling addiction, Blizzard is dead to me.

Support your local private servers.

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Have you found any good private server sublemmies? Whatever we’re calling them?

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If you build it, they will come.

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Idk if there are any sublemmys for it but I’ll take this time to recommend the private server I’ve been enjoying for the last year. Wow-hc is a small tight knit community, we just cleared molton core a couple weeks ago and are slowly progressing through the content. It’s very blizzlike and the dev is active and fixes problems very fast. I know hardcore wow isn’t for everyone but deaths can be appealed in the event of disconnects and bugs which is what drew me to it, where other private servers if the server crashes you are just out of luck.

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40 points

Communities.

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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I don’t have time to check a video, but isn’t it true for any service that it you don’t agree to the new ToS, your contract is terminated?

What makes this case so special?

Edit: or is it that people only found out now that the games they bought were online-only and that they’re at the mercy of the publisher?

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Paid-for games aren’t a service that should be able to be taken away in this manner

For software (like games) the usual rule is “use the old version if you don’t agree to the new terms”, but that’s not possible without piracy here

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Does Blizzard even make any single-purchase games that require a Blizzard account? WoW is a subscription, Overwatch is free-to-play, I doubt the old Starcraft games require accounts, and I don’t know much about Diablo.

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Diablo is indeed a single purchase game (with tons of MTX and soon to be DLC of course, but the base game is a single purchase).

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Stupid question and I honestly don’t know.

If Steam puts up a bunch of new Agreements, and you refuse to accept, you’ll continue using the non-updated version - correct?

Where in this scenario, Blizzard just locks you out of your account?

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If Steam puts up a bunch of new Agreements, and you refuse to accept, you’ll continue using the non-updated version - correct?

In theory you could keep using the service that adheres to the old agreement - but they will only provide the service under the new agreement. So effectively, no.

Unfortunately, Diablo 3 is an online game - even singleplayer. In case of starcraft, it’s even worse - the only reason for it to be online is multiplayer (fair enough) and drm (boo!).

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Yeah, I suppose that sucks if you never stopped to think about it.

In my case, it’s the reason I never bought Diablo 3 - when they turn an offline game into a mandatory online game, I figured that sooner or later they’d pull something like this.

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