“State transportation agencies are the recipients of the money,” he said. “Nearly all of them had no experience deploying electric vehicle charging stations before this law was enacted.”

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So it’s run into logistical challenges that are taking awhile to get past

Sounds about right when building new infrastructure

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Isn’t that what they said with hydrogen fuel cells as they grifted away a decade continuing to invest in car infrastructure instead of pedestrian, bike, and rail?

EVs are the new hydrogen fuel cells. They’re not about saving the environment, they’re about saving the auto industry.

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My understanding is they the problem with hydrogen is the conversion loss factor of air to hydrogen. It at least used to be a net loss of power by a significant margin to generate.

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It was always completely impossible. Transportation was the biggest impediment, but it was just full of unsolvable problems. At the end of the day, the easiest way to crack hydrogen was from oil anyway. It was never intended to work. It was intended to buy time for the auto and oil industry by selling the people a fake solution.

The infrastructure investment needed to support EVs, when the electricity would come from natural gas anyway, is pretty transparently the exact same grift.

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So volunteer to let them drill for oil in your back yard? Is that the answer since anything that takes more time or more money than that is obviously not a worthwhile solution.

Even expanding public transport takes time to build infrastructure and contractors would need to get paid, you know, “funnelling money” to them. None of it is a one presidency job and none of it is free.

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This money is going to the auto industry. The same auto industry that lobbies against mass transit and bike infrastructure, the same auto industry that ripped out all the light rail and destroyed American cities. The auto industry that is selling everyone SUVs and trucks in order to evade environmental regulations. This is a massive subsidy to some of the worst people, instead of funding things that make the auto industry basically obsolete.

Those are the same people who sell electric cars. This is money for them, instead of bike lanes and mass transit. That’s the problem. Work takes time, but what work you choose to do and who benefits from it actually matters.

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Dude how tf are we not just putting these at interstate rest stops. It’s a no brainer and they’re clearly going to fumble it

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The majority of places where we need additional EV charging infrastructure are off the the interstates.

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I’m sure the hand of the free market will step in at any moment.

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Per the article:

“State transportation agencies are the recipients of the money,” he said. “Nearly all of them had no experience deploying electric vehicle charging stations before this law was enacted.”

So the money is there, it’s just taking time.

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That money could be building infrastructure to make cars less relevant instead of wasting time on a fake solution.

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Here in Australia, I’d LOVE to know what infrastructure that could be. We have extensive trains and buses.

It also won’t help my hiking group, unless you propose they send buses to the middle of our national forests?

Infrastructure does help a lot of people, BUT, not everyone. Both are needed

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Mass Public Transport > Electric Cars.

Electric car support will take a short while to implement, but fossil fuel reduction will take a long time to show and a long time to be significant.

But Mass Public Transport takes a long while to implement and savings are quick to show, that would be because less people would require personal cars, which means direct drop in fuel usage per person, even more so in big cities which suffer because high population density requires too much parking space that is never enough.

Mass Public Transport could undo plenty of harm caused knowingly by the auto industry. funding, or in this case legitimizing the industry will not really help as electricity itself is still generated from fossil fuels.

The solution should be LESS consumption, not making excuses for the same consumption, or legitimizing more.

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There are applications for which mass transit just isn’t enough. I expect to see for example some of the disabled using EVs instead of mass transit. Realistically: we need to minimize driving, and electrify what remains.

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Agreed, also public transport should be more accommodating towards the disabled, it’s always such a weird thing that the buses (where i live in) have 0 or 1 “seating spots” for wheelchairs, instead of something modular that is more accomodating.

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Some of us told you Biden’s climate bills were performance and pork and wouldn’t make any difference. Some of us told you the goal was to funnel money to political allies, not save the environment.

You told us to vote harder and donate more money to Democrats in the midterms and it would work out somehow.

Yeah. How’s that “most environmentally friendly president in history” talking point working out?

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Per the article:

“State transportation agencies are the recipients of the money,” he said. “Nearly all of them had no experience deploying electric vehicle charging stations before this law was enacted.”

So the money is there, it’s just taking time.

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How does this refute the message you replied to?

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Because he’s arguing the work is happening, just slowly and is not just a way to funnel and steal money? The opposite of the comment he’s replying to?

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