I’m curious what you’ve been doing with it, what workarounds and fixes you’ve had to do over the years?

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  1. Things like CNC machines and proprietary interfaces to TOL equipment, like bus fare systems, message boards, etc.
  2. Don’t connect them to the Internet (most can’t, anyway, but some systems use a run-of-the-mill PC, so…)
  3. Don’t install anything on them that wasn’t supposed to be installed, even wallpaper as this could fuck up the resolution of a small 240 x 180 screen
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even wallpaper as this could fuck up the resolution of a small 240 x 180 screen

The minimum for xp was 640x480

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We run it in a lab, one of the microscopes we have is no longer maintained, and there is no driver for a modern OS.

It’s completely offline though, we copy the images onto a flash drive and then move them over to the production system manually, so there’s no need to update or fix anything just yet. It’s the same old computer. I’ve got a full set of replacement hardware though, just in case.

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Make an image of the whole computer if you can.

One day the hardware will die and it will probably run on semi modern hardware if you have a backup of the original drive.

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Something like that is more likely to work if it’s the same exact hardware, an XP image applied onto a totally different system is likely going to BSOD when all the current drivers it has installed suddenly stop working. And XP being XP, you’re not going to find new drivers for new hardware.

A lot of these XP machines running other hardware also have their own specific drivers and long unsupported proprietary middleware installed that won’t transfer onto new systems easily.

But I do agree with you on the disk image, if only the hard drive on that XP system dies then that’s an easy fix. Worst case OP would have to hunt around for an IDE drive if that desktop is particularly ancient.

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Sure, I have an image and 2 or 3 identical HDDs to restore them to. I have my doubts the image would mount as a VM, but I can install a fresh XP in a VM and then try to restore the drivers. I’d only have to find a way to access a serial port - I know they exist as USB adapters, but can’t be sure the software would recognize it accordingly. Would have to recognize it as a serial in the host OS and then pass through to the image. Which in theory should work, but in practice I’ll only touch it when it becomes a necessity. And luckily there’s a million old computers for cheap on ebay, so I hope I can just wait it out until the microscope eventually retires. It’s been long since written off, and I believe there were plans to replace it within the next 5 years, max.

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Look man, I just really like Space Cadet Pinball.

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I know this is (probably) a joke, but there’s a modern reverse engineered version: https://github.com/k4zmu2a/SpaceCadetPinball
Someone’s also packaged it for Flatpak: https://flathub.org/apps/com.github.k4zmu2a.spacecadetpinball

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It was a joke until you posted them links bruh, I’m gonna try this!

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I just took the exe file from XP and run that in Wine.
But anyway.

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You can just copy the binary from XP to a modern Windows version, or even better you can install the reverse-engineered version on loads of modern devices!

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Probably plenty of critical infrastructure and medical systems.

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In 2020 I worked for an MSP and we had to fix a broken Windows 2000 machine because it was the only machine that a certain medial office could use to send a receive faxes. They could not afford to upgrade a more modern system, as it necessitate a forklift upgrade of all their systems that would go into the 5-digit dollars. They didn’t have that money and no one could get computers quickly in 2020 so fixing it was the only option. After 20 hours of troubleshooting it got bounced up to me, because managed the team that had to fix it. I went into the office after they closed and everyone was gone, because pandemic. I pulled the machine in question out of the corner of the “server room” (read: poorly ventilated closet) it was in. An old Gateway full ATX tower, it was a sight to behold underneath the dust. Turns out the dust was the problem - it hadn’t been cleaned at any point in the last 20 years and there was a literal quarter inch of dust and lint on top of the motherboard. I cleaned that thing till it sparkled, set up back up and turned it on. Worked PERFECTLY, like nothing had ever been wrong. I was happy, the client was overjoyed and my bosses were happy. Good stuff.

The PSU blew 7 months later, taking down the motherboard and drives. Paperweight. So we took the full backup we made after I fixed it, turned it into a VM, set up a USB passthrough and gave it a USB fax modem. I left that job a while back, but to my knowledge it’s still working. By the time we had done that we had billed over 30 hours of work to the client at $150/hr. That’s a $4500 Windows 2000 fax server with added VM licensing on top of it. Pretty silly at the end of the day.

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Don’t know whether you mean that as a joke, but I can tell you it is very real thing world wide still.

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I’ve got a number of embedded systems that use a Java client which can’t work on a modern system. I run XP in a VM with an old version of Firefox and Java on it to get into those. Works great!

Up until a few years ago, I had a flight simulator running on Windows 95. It too, ran great and was certified for students to log flight time towards their certifications.

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