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My old person trait is a belief that anyone that works full time should be able to aspire to own their own home, support their wife and kids and still have a little left over to save at the end of the month.

Edit: It kind of sucks that I wrote a comment about making work pay like it used to and people are arguing about whether I’m a mysoganist that wants women back in the kitchen. (I’m not, I’m happy for women to work as much as they want too, it’d just be nice for double income homes to be doing it out of choice and thriving because of it, rather than having to do it out of necessity.)

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Whoa there. Won’t anyone ever think of the children-level executives? How could they afford a new Lamborghini or a new yacht when they also have to pay you?

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What about the executives’ children? They need a ten grand a month per year they’ve been alive (so when they’re three it’s thirty grand a month) salary. We need someone anyone to sit on the scholarship boards run by the company.

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I didn’t mean to be mysoganistic in any form, but it is in the DNA of men to want to be a good provider

Yeah but you said this so…

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That’s a fact, not an opinion that implies contempt, prejudice or a hatred of women.

You can try to deny millions of years of evolution if you want.

People don’t like to admit it, but despite all the advantages of our modern society, our DNA is essentially unchanged from when we were all cavemen.

If you were a cave woman and you had the option of two cavemen who are essentially identical except for that one makes a successful hunt everyday and the other only makes a successful hunt every week. Who would you choose to help you raise a family? And vice versa, if you were the caveman and you knew that women were selective of men based upon who can provide well for the raising of children, would you want to be making a successful hunt daily, or weekly?

We can cry about how unfair it is, but the vast majority of women today, whether they want to admit it or not, absolutely consider economic status as something to weigh up when selecting a partner, men do also consider this, but not nearly to the same extent. Please don’t misinterpret anything I’m saying here as resentful or hateful, it’s not it’s life, you can choose not to accept this, but it doesn’t change the facts.

Inb4, yh but we’re not cavemen any more. I’ve already addressed that.

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Anthropologists challenge the traditional view of men as hunters and women as gatherers in prehistoric times. Their research reveals evidence of gender equality in roles and suggests that women were physically capable of hunting. The study sheds light on the gender bias in past research and calls for a more nuanced understanding of prehistoric gender roles.

Lacy and her colleague Cara Ocobock from the University of Notre Dame examined the division of labor according to sex during the Paleolithic era, approximately 2.5 million to 12,000 years ago. Through a review of current archaeological evidence and literature, they found little evidence to support the idea that roles were assigned specifically to each sex. The team also looked at female physiology and found that women were not only physically capable of being hunters, but that there is little evidence to support that they were not hunting.

Micdrop.

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So your old person trait is really that “wife stay at home with the kids” should be the norm?

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It should be an option.

Dad works, and mum stays at home to focus on the home and kids. ✔️

Mum works and dad stays at home to focus on the home and kids. ✔️

Both work part time to both spend quality time with the kids. ✔️✔️✔️

All should be completely viable for an average income couple.

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This. As a working woman I can’t really upvote the “I wanna support wife and kids” stuff. Thanks, but I want to work.

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I agree with you. But that’s not what OP wrote. Now, maybe he’s simply writing from his own perspective. But it does sound a bit weird imo.

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39 points

How the hell did you come to that conclusion?

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Wanting to support your family is sexist in 2024 /s

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The lemmy, land of the contrarian.

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“support their wife and kids” is right there in plain text.

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The fact that one working man could support his whole family just a few decades ago didn’t mean women shouldn’t, couldn’t or didn’t work, just that they didn’t have to.

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Women worked fulltime, just unpaid. This is always forgotten. Household with multiple kids is not free time.

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So “women” didn’t have to work, but men had to, right? That’s the model you want back?

You really haven’t noticed that you have this role model of the breadwinner as the man and the stay-at-home-mother deeply ingrained into your thinking, right?

It’s in that response as well. That’s not an accusation, stuff like this is in everyone somewhere, it’s just good to challenge oneself on such matters.

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I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing. I think having a stay at home parent is kind of yesteryear, and should probably be viewed as such for a multitude of reasons, but I think, full time salary and able to support what are basically three people’s needs + savings is not an unreasonable demand. The more this is commonplace, the more everyone can afford to support everyone else collectively, since only a quarter of the total population would really need to be working at any given time, and the rest could be paylessly employed to manage each other. Beyond just stay at home moms or dads, it could entail any number of people in any number of living situations, but the free time means that taking care of the elderly, disabled, children, or whatever else could just be split among the local social network, instead of just kinda being foisted onto underfunded social systems which should more realistically not be the first option.

Probably this is the main driver of why the social fabric of america is coming undone, that I can think of, but it’s also not so easy to solve, because none of this is really something you can solve long-term in a capitalist economy, where there are always incentives to undercut your competition by underpaying your workers, or outsourcing. Or really in any system that prioritizes short term gains over long term ones.

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It should be an option for those outside the top 1%. Let’s be honest, plenty of jobs suck and a lot of people who look after a children professionally are not the brightest sparks in the fire (at least where I am). Why should someone be forced to do a crap job then give all that salary to someone less cultures than the to look after their kids. Why not just do it themselves?

If one of you has a good, full-time job that should cover basic living expenses. It should also not be looked down. My wife is a stay at home mum, she is also a feminist and I certainly did not not force her to to work. The only thing we regret is the way people (especially other women but not only) look down on her.

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I’m an equal opportunity house person. I wouldn’t mind staying home taking care of the kids while the wife worked, living in our owned home and having something extra at the end of the month

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Not necessarily the wife.

And not necessarily the same person all the time.

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OP did specify “the wife”. I would take him by the word.

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Cars should have buttons and knobs. Not complicated menus and touchscreens. That’s not a “I don’t like change” thing, it’s a safety thing.

Hell yes I should own it if I pay for it.

Event tickets shouldn’t cost a month’s pay or more, fuck middleman businesses that do nothing except price gouge you as a “service.”

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Exactly, I’ve railed on this exact topic.

a screen offers no tactile feedback.

You can learn what buttons feel like, and where they are (and the same for knobs) so yo ucan operate your vehicle without having to take your eyes off the road.

Tablets are sleek and shiny, and fundamentally horrible as a car interface.

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I don’t necessarily have an issue with the screens. The problems are:

Commonly accessed features like choosing a media source, setting environmental controls, or even lighting, are buried several “clicks” deep. These need to be surface-level and need zero distraction from driving to interact with.

The “touch” part of touch-screen often sucks. Every car I’ve driven with touch interface requires too long of a press and/or doesn’t pick up the press. So you have to look away from driving to repeatedly mash a touch control. That’s not safe.

The touch area is often too small, such as arrow buttons to raise or lower volume, skip a song, or change temperature. Not only do they not register the touch, they’re too small. Double whammy for distraction.

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and theres no tactile feed back. you have no idea where your finger is on the screen, So you have to take your eyes off the road to futz with a stupid menu in a stupid interface.

a button/knob? You can just reach, feel, and operate without ever taking your eyes or attention off the road.

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And they should bring back knobs and tactile functions for all white goods for people with disabilities or at least prepare and provide the model for exactly that. Touch screen was a terrible idea for washers, driers and dishwashers. This isn’t just an old person thought, it’s an inclusive thought.

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3 points

Shitty user interfaces for the sake of looking “modern” can genuinely jack themselves off with the entire monkey paw

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I freaking hate this software trend. Years of good engineering design practices have been thrown away for almost no reason.

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I’m fairly certain I saw the EU already put something into action about trying to turn this tide. It needs to be expanded for sure

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Knobs are highly underrated for control interfaces. Gives users a fine degree of control to dial in as quickly or as slowly as they’re comfortable. They’re an old concept, but they can still benefit from contemporary tech. Have you ever used a Nest thermostat? The little blocks as you scroll through the settings, pushing the whole thing in like a button to select. It’s weirdly satisfying and I want to control everything with a big knob now.

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Agree completely with the first 3, but my young person/introvert trait is that I think I should be able to get anything, including paying my bills, to work without having to talk to someone on the phone like I’m my boomer dad.

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Unfortunately now it seems to be the worst of both worlds: companies don’t have a contact email, but only a phone number and sometimes a useless chat bot. When I finally work up the courage to use the phone, I have to go through a long automated menu system, and/or wait for half an hour.

Once I actually get a human on the phone it’s never as bad as my mind made it out to be -but I would still very much prefer an email.

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At this point, I only buy from places with physical locations, so if I need something replaced, I can just take what I’m owed.

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Also in a lot of cases it’s simply a waste of an employee’s time to answer basic questions on the phone all day long. Robots should be able to do that better. But I do agree that customers should be trapped on hold for 30 minutes.

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But I do agree that customers should be trapped on hold for 30 minutes.

…You’ve worked in customer service, haven’t you? 😛

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Oops

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I think at least there should be at least a digital queue system so that you can just get an automated call back instead of having to wait for hours listening to the hold music.

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We actually have this here in Denmark. Not for every phone queue, but more and more. My ISP is one of the companies that do that ❤️

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My old person trait is that UI shouldn’t change unexpectedly when you are trying to click or touch something.

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it should not change unexpectedly, period.

I don’t want to install an update and have the ui completely change on me because some dev wanted to pad out his resume by starting a new project on the fresh-framework-of-the-day.

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Yes.

Pointless UI changes are a fucking atrocity, cause they are always more complicated and more informational overload than the previous design, while being more resource intensive and slower.

KISS is a motto for a reason. Unfortunately its the stupid people that seem to make the decisions and don’t register that they are the ones KISS is directed at.

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Of course it shouldn’t, that’s one of the core principles of UI design, but these days it does anyway so it is an old person trait now

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TIL ‘old person’ means 'having literally any god damn standards and not getting on your knees for corpodaddy at the drop of a hat.

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agreed

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I feel like this is a product of a lack of UX team or outsourcing it. When engineers are left to make a UI… they make what works (barely), not what is easy to use…

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As a developer I need to be reigned in when it comes to design. I don’t know shit and have learnt that there are conventions for a reason.

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Especially when you’re given a deadline where you know that you can’t afford to spend 10-20% of the time designing the interface lol

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Right? I wait for everything to load and snap into place and then I touch my screen. SIKE! it’s got one more button to put under my finger that instant.

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My old person trait is a bad back

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