Ambition once came with a promise: a home, a salary, progress and fulfilment. What happens when that promise is broken? Meet the women who are turning their backs on consumerism, materialism and burnout

159 points

Completely ridiculous that they quoted Kim Kardashian…

The soft life approach is not without its critics. In 2022, Kim Kardashian infamously claimed that women need to “get your fucking ass up and work” as “it seems like nobody wants to work these days”. She was forced to apologise – after it was pointed out that coming from a rich, already-famous family in LA would have its advantages in the job market.

But I never liked how this movement picked up the name “lazy girl job”. Bros can be lazy too…

I could have pulled in 6 figures after the Navy, but it would have been a shitty job that I fucking hated.

So I went back to school, got a degree that interests me, did that for a few years, then got a cushy decently paid office job that didn’t care what my degree was about.

I’m not maximizing my income, but I also essentially get UBI because I’m a disabled vet.

I’m basically living the progressive dream. And if everyone got the stuff I did, we’d be happier and more productive as a society. Along with a shit ton less crime, because people have something to lose.

Our current hyper capitalist society only works for people like Kim Kardashian that start out wealthy and connected, and those idiots constantly insist the only reason they’re wealthy is they work harder. I was doing manual labor before I was a teenager. There’s no way in hell Kim has worked a single day harder then I did as a child, but she legitimately believes she busts her ass, all the wealthy elites do.

Because they’re surrounded by people they pay to tell them what they want to hear, and everyone else is a “hater”.

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Kim Kardashian is only rich because she sucked a dudes dick and made a sex tape of it, pretty much with the hopes it would be leaked and make her famous.

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It wasn’t even her plan…

She was Paris Hilton’s assistant (still no idea why she needed an assistant) when her sex tape legitimately leaked, and Kim saw her go from an fairly anonymous rich girl to nationally famous overnight.

And wanted to follow suit.

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She had a fairly popular reality tv show at the time and was already pretty well established as an it girl and model. Im hard pressed to say she was fairly anonymous. That’s what made the sex tape such a big deal was because it was of someone famous.

Don’t get me wrong, I buy your story that kim saw the value of the leaked tape. Just having lived through that as a horny young man, I’m not sure I agree with the characterization that she was fairly anonymous.

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It wasn’t Paris’ plan either. It was Kris Jenner’s plan.

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Her father was also one of the highest-earning crim defense lawyers.

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Who became famous for being a defense lawyer for the most watched murder trial in history.

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To be fair, plenty of sex tapes have leaked or “leaked” with a lot of noise over the years, very few people have translated them to massive wealth (games, reality shows, modelling, branding, appearances etc). Whoever is managing them (their mum perhaps?) is very smart in at least that they know how to leverage opportunity, and they’re smart enough to listen to that person.

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Yeah, Kris Kardashian is known as their “momager”

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She’s famous because her parents were famous, and her family made a pointed campaign to continue making money off of reality tv and being proto-influencers.

Like it or not, a lot of people genuinely enjoy reality TV as entertainment and having characters to watch and gossip about. Kim K is in the entertainment industry.

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26 points

Same ship, different service. The safety net affords me the ability to find what I really want to do without tying my life to a single job or place.

I also think that it can be brought to other citizens through other community activities. Why don’t we offer similar incentives to teachers? 10yr of teaching in exchange for UBI. Or doctors. Or rebuilding the crumbling infrastructure.

I’m guessing that your VA/service income doesn’t just go straight to savings either. A lot of it goes right back into the economy through purchasing and associated taxes paid on those things. At least mine does.

The US military is the largest socialist organization in the world and I wish they would extend that to the rest of its citizens without the downside of PTSD, death, and a lifetime of physical and mental ailments.

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14 points

Yeah, it’s essentially BAH lol.

Every year it goes up, and every year I make it my new monthly payment for my mortgage.

The US military is the largest socialist organization in the world

I say this all the time, it’s 100% true.

The vast majority of our issues would disappear if everyone got that stuff. And we could pay for it all just be taxing the 1% of wealthiest people and corporations.

The only reason to not want it, is if those wealthy people give you a shit ton of money to not want it.

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9 points

I’ve thought this for a while, but maybe our service to country isn’t done with a DD214. The current situation in the US and world at large makes me think I can still do some good. Maybe politics needs more people who think like you and me.

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3 points

They quoted Kim Kardashian as a foil in this story haha

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1 point

Oh thank god somebody had said it

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2 points

all I want is basic media literacy lol

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But but but HaRd WoRk DoEs NoT EqUaL VaLuAbLe wOrK!!!

-Bootlickers

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But I never liked how this movement picked up the name “lazy girl job”. Bros can be lazy too…

This article isn’t about men. “Meet the women who…”, it says.

We must have achieved peak equality if the 47% minority are cut out of the piece because we’re not relevant.

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2 points

Cry more because of one article focussing on women, lmao.

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117 points

My biggest regret in life was working hard for an employer who didn’t care for me. I now work in public sector and know that I am making the world a better place, and that pleases me. I got out of the rat race and now have some level of comfort.

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I’m glad to hear that you’re doing better. I’ve found that public sector can be more stressful in some domains, because of how overstretched services are nowadays, but like you say, at least you’re striving for more than just lining someone else’s pocket

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19 points

I am also in a good position–I work in higher education, so not quite the same as state or local government, which has different challenges.

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93 points

Why run if there’s no more a carrot dangling from the string?

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41 points

And the treadmill is accelerating on top of that as well.

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18 points

And there was never a carrot in the first place. It was a turd painted orange

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I think describing former US President Trump this way would cause offense to the turd.

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37 points

It’s multi-pronged:

  • why put in effort for companies that will run you into the ground to save a fraction of a %, give you “raises” that don’t even cover inflation and never adjust to market rates, or will fire you at will?
  • why work hard when the social contract has been severed; when the entire system is designed to funnel wealth to the richest, and return the working class to a feudalist underclass of renters.
  • why save for a future family when you can’t ever have housing or economic security, and the system is hellbent on maintaining the status quo despite the fact it may create a lifetime of famine, war, and suffering for the children we already can’t afford.
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why work hard when the social contract has been severed;

There never was this. We had strong unions from the 1930s until the late 1970s. Since then, it’s been non-stop capitalism fests.

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That’s because the job wasn’t finished. People thought we could negotiate with capitalists.

Sure you can get a peace deal, just like you can get one with putin. The 1% kept soaking up the stolen surplus labor value, and have used that power and wealth to take us right back to the gilded age. when the time comes, no reforms… just a new way of life. We tried reforms yall. It did not work

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I think millennials and zoomer are just being open and honest about things that always happened. We love labels and with the Internet talks with other like-minded people. There have always been people who worked 9 to 5 at a job and prioritized stability over money. We are being open and bragging about it. We just want to break the hustle culture that was always a loud subset

For example my dad a peak boomer worked at the same company for his whole career and turned down “promotions” that gave a manager title with little more money. They have always been there

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The problem is, you used to be able to comfortably live that life. Now if you stay at the same company, your wages won’t increase at a rate to sustain your life style. Companies care way more about acquiring talent than retaining talent, so you need to move around to make enough money

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And this is why being part of a bargaining class/union is important, none of this making less than new hires doing the same thing, your wages go up with the cost of living so even if you don’t get raises, you still don’t fall behind inflation

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I know. But that was the equivalent of jumping every few years to a similar but slightly paying more role. Not grinding to get the biggest promotion and title as possible.

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At some point, you end up wanting some stability and the constant jumping gets old. Perhaps you finally hit a target salary that makes you go “well I guess that’s enough”.

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I think millennials and zoomer are just being open and honest about things that always happened.

This is partially true, but things are actually worse than they used to be in some ways and better in others. I think that, more than anything, the conditions have accelerated a bit more.

I was born in 1976. I remember managers being completely toxic assholes–that was just how it was. But, when I was a kid, there were still pensions–you worked 40 years for a company and they took care of you. I think that both of these things are gone–managers can’t really get away with being as cruel as they used to, though I know that’s out there. Also employees don’t expect a graceful exit at the end of their career.

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Millennials and gen z know things are worse, and that’s why we don’t feel like it’s worth it to give everything to a company. We don’t have to pretend because we know the employers know things are bad.

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I wonder if you meant to say “millenials and gen z”?

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60 points

Companies expect you to slog your guts out for the false promise of a reward. But being a hard worker, at least in my environment, just means you get the hardest work.

I’ve had the biggest pay rises by changing job. There’s no reason to be ambitious and stay loyal to a company that will run you ragged and offer very little in return.

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Unfortunately that’s only really true for white collar work. Most factory/trade schmucks like myself get massive pay cuts when we move jobs…

I’ve been in the same cycle for almost 15 years now… Work 5 years, get raises, have to move, huge pay cut, work 5 years, get back to first exit salary, have to move, huge pay cut, etc etc…

I get sooooo bitter when I see already well paid people talk about getting 30-40% more when changing jobs… Like good for them, but man are things not even in that respect at all. :(

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It’s also really hard to jump when you work a niche job. The pay is basically flat no matter where you go and there isn’t really anywhere to turn.

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It fucking sucks until you’ve been somewhere for years or get into a maintenance or supervisor position where you can hide most of the day. These employers want you to have experience with the exact machines they have in their plant when the machines are custom made for their exact process. Then there’s the employers with absolutely shitty benefits. I just turned down $25/hr because the benefits were complete shit and my initial contact with hr was just blowing smoke up my ass about how good the job was. My advice is to embellish what you did at your last jobs and keep looking and applying. I look for jobs every day during the morning meeting.

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Source?

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I’ve never been in a union though

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I would love to see comments like this result in a permaban. Fuck, scour the ip’s and any connected accounts, torch everything and anything for this user. Tolerance for this kind of deception is half of the worlds problem and why fascism is taking over while we continue culture wars instead of class wars. Take a cue from the Germans and silence these fuckers.

There is no excuse, rebuttal, or “Well actually” from this users statements. Pure, unequivocal propaganda and misinformation being spread on Lemmy. We should be able to do better than “X” at the very least.

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