56 points

So, basically the 4th Reich all over again. Honestly, it’s been brilliant to watch this. Germany tried to unify Europe against the Soviet worker’s state first through nationalism, then through threats, then through violence and fielded the world’s most advanced military at the time to attempt to consolidate Europe, establish long supply chains, marshall as many forces as possible, and go after Russia through it’s border with Ukraine. But they got spread too thin, the Soviet forces destroyed them, and then the US and UK opened a new front and it was over.

But NATO? Man, they built that transnational force throughout Europe with an air of legitimacy, they got every country to participate willingly, they marshalled all of the economies in Europe to contribute, and they marched from the Atlantic to Russia’s doorstep without anyone seeing it for what it was. They even protected the Nazis, and supported irregular fascist militias for 80 years and still no one saw it.

Now they want to activate it all, plunge Europe into austerity through financial institutions and coercion, and no one can stop them because the enemy military is fully established in each country. They can’t stop it because it’s already there and they are collaborating with the fascist irregulars so they have two complete avenues of violence and everyone knows it. Europe has been captured fully by a foreign enemy, occupied, infiltrated, and there’s nothing they can do except pay the extremely high price of a revolt.

And what’s the target? The same as Napoleon, a the same as Hitler, it’s Russia. The geopolitical dynamic remains. And there’s very little awareness of any of this narrative.

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39 points

About sums it up, although the big problem they have is that Russia’s not alone. They’d be basically taking on the BRICS now, and the west is simply in no position to do that.

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41 points

The problem is that practically what this means is opening multiple hot fronts to bleed the empire and that means a lot of death and suffering for many many years

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31 points

Unfortunately, this is an entirely plausible scenario the way things are going. I get the impression that most people in the west don’t realize what that’s going to mean for them personally.

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40 points

Good luck establishing war economy while being fleeced by USA.

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Isn’t that the whole point though. They’re gonna dismantle all the social services Europeans enjoy under the pretense of remilitarizing and enrich the people who own US military industry. This is a scheme for US to plunder Europe.

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39 points

According to media reports, this includes a €100 billion war fund for Ukraine over the next five years.

Expect every current NATO country government to lose popularity while denouncing anti-war parties/policies as “Putinist” and “pro-Russia”. They’ll use that excuse to silence these voices, if not outright imprison people.

Europe is already passing legislation and setting the stage to “counter disinformation” and “Russian influence”. That’s how the liberals plan on maintaining their grip on power.

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28 points

fascism 🤝 Europe

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20 points

how to say you’re a dumb fuck without saying you’re dumb fuck

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15 points

No no no it’s Europe that’s the fascist, little one. Next time you’ll get it. It’s okay!

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15 points

How does avoiding any diplomatic solution to the conflict and encouraging Ukrainians to sacrifice themselves for “democracy” actually stop Russia from wiping out Ukraine? It seems that the EU has only exacerbated the destruction of Ukraine, no? And no I am not a big fan of Putin.

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suck Putin’s dick

I’m going to disregard whatever a homophobic bigot wants to talk at me about

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30 points

They’ve been downplaying what these words mean, claiming its just for better coordination, blah, blah, blah. But we’re in year 3, I don’t think anyone believes they’ve been operating with sub-optimal planning and integration up until this point.

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27 points

I imagine US is really pissed with Macron right now because they’re were trying to keep an air of ambiguity regarding what NATO might do, and he opened up the question of boots on the ground directly. So, now we’re seeing countries taking sides on the issue, and it’s clear that support for the idea is tepid at best.

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12 points

Macron still trying to get BRICS money and new uranium contracts.

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9 points

he’s such an utter clown

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28 points

Something I consider when I think about, you know, a potential PPW, Party Rockin’ type scenario, whether it be in the US, France, or elsewhere, Germany, what have you, they’re depleting the tools of war at a rapid pace. What are they going to do when they run out of these things? All reactionaries are paper tigers, baby.

Furthermore, we’re currently watching a group of young men and women battling it out with the most well-equipped military force in the world, backed by the largest empire in the world, dudes in fucking tracksuits, with flip-flops and an RPG, handling business in a corridor that won’t look too much different than Santa Fe, New Mexico. Really makes you think.

And I have a feeling, the IDF’s operational tactics, the loose goose, shoot em if it moves, carpet bomb em to nothing strategy, it wouldn’t work in Atlanta, it wouldn’t work in New Orleans. Something to think about.

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20 points

The real obstacle in the us isn’t the military it’s a massive number of brainwormed reactionaries that are armed to the teeth

I would say they outnumber us 10 to 1, optimistically

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14 points

Yeah, death squads would absolutely be spun up. Keep the military from getting their hands dirty.

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5 points

I half think that’s the whole reason the FBI keeps these white supremacist groups around and supported.

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The “totally flatten them” tactic didn’t work in Korea, didn’t work in Vietnam, why would it work now?

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