The indictment against former President Donald Trump for his role in attempting to overturn the 2020 election results is the most important case in U.S. history, according to the author. The indictment alleges that Trump conspired to make false claims of election fraud and used those claims in an attempt to steal the election through pressuring state officials and interfering with Congress’ certification of the electoral votes. If convicted, it would deter future would-be authoritarians from attempting to subvert elections. However, Trump may argue that he honestly believed the election was stolen, and assert First Amendment defenses. Still, the risks of not prosecuting Trump for undermining democracy are greater than the risks of prosecution. The outcome of this case will greatly influence whether the U.S. remains a democracy after 2024.
Not only the US… Internationally, the bigotry and BS is spilling over. Here in Australia, we’re still highly divided because of absolute BS like his COVID nonsense. I’m coming across people talking about “wokeness” even here in Australia now (wankers of course).
This needs to end…
In fact, the fact he stepped into a public meeting the day after he lost the case against Jean Carroll and basically called her a slut (apparently after not knowing who she was), after not attending the trial, should be more than enough evidence that he’s a bad person. In fact a few youtubers even called him out prematurely that he’d claim the judge was corrupt and blocked him from attending the trial, etc (and he did exactly that, which is why the Judge had obviously offered to give him a short delay to attend).
And I literally saw 5 mins of Fox news months before the insurrection, and it was obvious to me when he started saying the election is rigged that he was already setting things up to overthrow it.
To be clear, I’m a straight white male. So absolutely nobody could claim I’m sexist against him. He’s just a manipulative S.O.B. He should go to prison, and take the rest of his toxic alpha wannabees with him. I’m so sick of them causing problems even here
He is going to argue that he was fed bad information by his alleged co-conspirators and had reasonable concerns about the integrity of the election. No mens rea, no conviction. Bullshit, of course, but it doesn’t take a whole lot to hang a jury, and I would think that is particularly so in a politically charged case. I have seen a lot of good arguments to the contrary, but folks have to understand that proving this part is harder than you might think.
He is in greater immediate jeopardy with the documents case where it is impossible to see him mounting a successful defense, at least if the law is followed. The question there will be the severity of the consequences. Will he plead out? Will he get a slap on the wrist?
Edit: interesting short blurb here where Bill Barr is quoted as saying he thinks prosecutors have additional evidence establishing intent.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/03/politics/bill-barr-trump-arraignment-2020-election/index.html
“Trump may lose trial but win appeal”
– Alan Dershowitz: Evidence Against Trump Is WEAK, Indictment Could CRIMINALIZE Free Speech?
“Donald Trump’s lawyer Alan Dershowitz weighs in on the third indictment of Donald Trump. #trumpindictment #Trump”
Why did it take 3 years to indict him?
Why does it matter? Why deflect instead of addressing the substance of the indictment?
I’m not questioning the legitimacy of the indictment, I’m wondering why it took so long to indict such a serious offense. Even the Republican senators were in danger, so I don’t get why neither party pushed for it harder.
Ever had to write a research paper where the books didn’t want to let you read them?
- It’s a lengthy process if you do it thoroughly
- The stakes are high so taking your time to do things right is important
- Trump’s legal team has certainly been doing everything they can to delay everything they’re able to
Indictments are one thing. Convictions are another, and punishments are yet another. Wake me up when something actually happens.
