There are a few subreddits I check out from time to time because Lemmy doesn’t have the volume of users required to keep those niche conversations active.
Wow, what a pain! There’s so much hostility and byzantine rules. It’s just not worth it.
That place really went to shit over the past year. Which is hardly surprising seeing how many good people were pushed away from the platform.
Good mods were replaced by power tripping shitheads and good posters and commenters were driven off when they couldn’t use their desired app and the subreddits they liked went to shit or were nuked. Meanwhile, bots are ruining everything else.
And let’s not even get started on the ads, the IPO shenanigans, the AI thing…
Reddit needs to be taken out back and shot. It’s the humane thing to do; we shouldn’t let it suffer like this.
Alternate viewpoint: Whatever was good about reddit died long ago anyway. Whatever’s left is just a useless cash-grab cesspool. I’m perfectly fine with letting it simultaneously decay and cannibalize itself. Watching it play out is funny.
The problem is that nothing left alive still will ever die now. They have too many visitors, and too much money, and it’s damned near impossible to spin up alternatives without State level funding now. None of the average internet users give a fuck about quality, nor are they willing to visit a site that doesn’t already have a fully established community. Since you can’t establish a community without users, and you can’t get users when you don’t have users, it’s a done deal. The internet is like 5 sites now, and those sites can’t fuck up enough to drive a critical mass of people away. I mean look at what Facebook has become. It’s completely fucking worthless as a social media site now, full of 98% sponsored bullshit, yet they still have 3 billion visitors per day. The good Internet is dead. The corpos stole it & killed it. We will never get it back.
Instead, Huffman will eat it from the inside out like a parasite devouring its prey.
And people will praise him for being such a “success” (at business), and will be outright shocked, Shocked I tell you, SHOCKED that the Reddit experience does not improve as he promised it would.
But hopefully some of us at least will choose to learn from the clusterfuck that was Rexit.
I’d argue that reddit has been on the decline for years. We are just now starting to see the impacts of it: power tripping mods, admins that don’t care about anything except click count and allow it, spez being a pedophile piece of shit who made the unofficial apps useless, the allowance of hate subs that only got banned due to the outrage, people leaving in droves etc. I do agree with you, it needs to be put out of its misery.
also too much: [deleted] [removed]
There’s also the newer [ Removed by Reddit ] which means their admin mod team.
I recently finished season 2 of One-Punch Man and I looked to see if there were any announcements about a season 3. I came across a reddit thread about season 3 being announced and holy shit are people nuts. The animation of OPM season 2 wasn’t as good as season 1, but it wasn’t actually bad; it just wasn’t as good as season 1. However, the reddit thread would make you think it was animated by preschoolers.
To be frank, that’s not a trait exclusive to Reddit - it’s a common characteristic of many (most) online fan communities.
My pet theory is that it’s a result of the community members spending excessive amounts of time analyzing the minutia of their interest. From there, a combination of nostalgia and the tendency of people to focus on flaws creates a perfect environment for negativity to flourish.
Personally, I’ve tried to do my part to push back against that trend in the spaces I favor, but it’s not easy.
To be frank, that’s not a trait exclusive to Reddit - it’s a common characteristic of many (most) online fan communities.
I agree 100%
I am a patient anime watcher, which in a nutshell means that I usually watch stuff when it is about to end or have ended way ago… anyway, I like to read what people thought about specific episodes so I headed to MyAnimeList to see what people thought about some seasons of Attack on Titan, and countless episodes where shitting about the animations and the usage of CGI lol, like dude, it looks fine, can we discuss about the plot?
There’s so much hostility
Same here, to be honest. Except for Beehaw, every other place seems like a no-mod/no-remember-the-human land.
Fwiw, my own experience changed dramatically after I blocked lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net. Some people also block lemmy.ml but I like the memes so I do not go that far - yet when people do come back with the most inane shit replies, it is >90% from there.
The Fediverse does require curation to be halfway usable, but the fact that nice places exist here at all makes it very different from Reddit imho. That takes effort to maintain, and while mods may not always be perfect, consider the kind of person that would remain as a mod on Reddit after the protests… overworked, entirely unappreciated, and having to deal with the most childish people. When old-reddit gets further shut down (as it seems to have started to people say, e.g. when accessed via a VPN) it will degrade even further. The scabs will run the show, even more so than now. Just like happened with X.
Ofc, do as you please, but I hope this perspective helps:-).
Your first paragraph is spot on for me. I also haven’t blocked lemmy.ml yet, but I’m this fucking close man. Personally, I hope that lemmy grows, grows more diverse, and the politically toxic side of lemmy gets diluted a bit.
It is what it is. The original founding developer is a tankie, and offered everything he did entirely for free. Meanwhile after Reddit began to collapse there were several projects - like squabbles and discuit - who offered to let people come onto their instance but refused to offer their code as open source, presumably with the intention of using the standard approach to first disrupt the market and then later make a bunch of money (also used to lure in fish, set out the bait and then reel it in).
The closest one to Lemmy was Kbin, but that has its own whole entire set of drama, being open source but not sharing the development process with anyone else and then the singular founding developer being extremely slow to add new features or take things further or even maintain the existing instance in the meantime (there is the Mbin fork, but if Lemmy is early beta or late alpha stage software, Kbin/Mbin is still early alpha, plus Kbin repeatedly goes down for days to a week at a time).
Meanwhile, most people who just enjoy being “taken care of” by daddy spez remained on Reddit, which from a technical perspective (of like server uptime and whatnot) does objectively offer a better experience. At least until old-reddit is killed off, though in the meantime they seem to allow it due to their increasingly dire need for content creators.
So anyway I am saying that politics is very much entertwined with the entire existence of this place. People chasing profits have other Reddit alternatives that they turned to, so we are the odd ones who enjoy “sharing” (i.e. in the socialist sense) and are willing to put up with the significantly higher technical barrier to entry and greater share of problems, in order to preserve our freedoms and help set something up that has a hope of lasting in the future, as corporations enshittify themselves all around us.
But yeah, I want to ditch the toxicity side of it as well:-). Except I cannot change others, only myself, hence why I just block those and move on with my life, and let them do the same.
Some people also block lemmy.ml but I like the memes so I do not go that far
I’ve reported so many “memes” from there that aren’t anything close to a meme. They’re just hyper hostile political propaganda.
How much of that is due to it being one of the larger servers though? As well as one of the oldest. I don’t know that much about it - there’s the origin story but unlike searching for info about e.g. lemmy.world, I cannot readily find things about lemmy.ml like where it is located geographically. The closest description I’ve seen is here that only says “Server looks to be located in France”. But who knows if that is true?
Anyway, you get to know the servers on Lemmy after awhile - like I’ve rarely if ever had an issue with anyone at all from mander.xyz, but then lemmy.world is a mixed bag (that one b/c it’s so big), and lemmy.ml is decidedly lopsided. But it is not the only place that has trolls. Perhaps I will block it one day, but I did not want to take that extreme step without giving them as much of a chance as I could.
Which I did for both lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net as well - and ultimately decided that it was better for the sake of my sanity to block them than to leave Lemmy altogether (fortunately v.0.19 came out just then and made it possible and easy:-).
So now I want to tell people that they can DRAMATICALLY improve their experience on the Fediverse, just by blocking those 2-3 servers, in case it helps salvage their experience of it as well.
The list of people, communities, and instances I have blocked on Lemmy is like 20x longer than what I had blocked on Reddit. And every day new accounts and communities pop up that get added to the list. At this point the only reason I don’t go back to Reddit is out of principle. Because Lemmy, for as good of an idea as it is, is like a cesspool for people who believe politics/social politics is a personality trait. And Reddit was becoming that way too, but maybe its different now considering Lemmy is like a sponge for those kind of folk.
You’ve been here 9 months and haven’t witnessed it here?
I’m not talking about users who make crazy comments. I’m talking about how I made a legitimate, on-topic, non-controversial post in good faith and it got removed with no explanation. Then when I followed the sub’s instructions about how to ask why my post disappeared, the mod replied with a bunch of passive aggressive snarky shit and muted me.
