Putin accuses Wagner chief Prigozhin of treason, calls Wagner mercenaries ‘heroes’ who helped ‘liberate’ Donbas.

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Russia analyst on Al Jazeera talking about revolution

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It’s started by the military, so it’s a coup, maybe a revolt. In my definition, a revolution is done by the people, not the military.

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I think you’re right but since large part of the people have been conscripted… Maybe you can call it a revolution as well?

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It’s kind of a grey area since Wagner are mercenaries and not traditional military, no?

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Not THE military. A private military company, rather. Closer would be if Blackwater (academi? Xe? Idk what their current name is) did it in the US.

I don’t even know what a good term for it would be. Military coup usually means the country’s own military.

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No no, it’s a Special Civil Operation!

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now if only Kadyrov’s tiktok brigade joins in and they all manage to kill each other, it’ll be Christamas come early.

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So this is an appeal to Wagner mercenaries to desert or to overthrow Prigozhin as leader of Wagner?

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Very poor calculation from Putin. Guessing he’s again listening to his yesmen.

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So, we have the Free Russian liberation group wandering around and taking random towns from Putin. Then we have part of Wagner literally rolling up to military headquarters in tanks, forcing the head to flee. Right now, AFAICT, they’re cruising up the highway to Moscow, which is being carved up by trench diggers of the Russian army in anticipation of the convoy. Then there are statements by Kadyrov that seem to support Putin, making it a double coup (though I haven’t seen anything between the Wagner subgroups).

I think this is a Civil Double Mu-terr-coup-tionary Attack (mutiny, terrorist attack, military coup, revolution). Fucking Wild.

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Where can I read reports about the statements that Kadyrov had said?

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Thank you for the reply with the link!

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Sorry for missing this. I basically posted and went to bed. I love when my sleep schedule makes me look like I’m spreading misinformation! Now it’s all over the news, but I totally understand asking for a source at the time. Cheers.

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It’s okay, doc. Your sleep is important for your mental health. Keep up that momentum.

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That page seems slightly broken? I can’t scroll down until I start the video and accept cookies, that doesn’t seem right.

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I posted it from the F24 app, that may be why. Here’s a link to the browser version https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230624-live-moscow-accuses-wagner-head-of-mutiny-he-says-his-forces-enter-russia

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From the France24 link (thanks) “10:30am: Russia’s Putin briefed Belarus’ Lukashenko on situation in Russia” - I’m guessing that was just before his plane took off and headed for Türkiye!

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The consensus appears seems to be that Lukashenko’s family was on the plane. It’s not clear whether he was on it or not.

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