I know a few people in the 100k range. Only a couple have kids. I think that is more than that. It’s never stopped people in the past. I think a combination of education and poverty may be part of this.
I mean, even if you’re financially well off, your income isn’t going to make you blind to things like climate collapse or the prevalence of right wing neonazis.
There are a lot more factors than just money that make this planet not a suitable place to raise children.
Sure, but we know about that because we tend to be more educated. My point was that money alone isn’t the only reason we aren’t having more kids. Thank you for agreeing with me. The way I put it could have used more examples.
Yeah idk why you’re getting downvoted so hard. My post was just a piggy-back off of yours, not a rebuttal or anything. /shrug.
Half of America makes more than that now. Though not by much.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/05/17/half-americans-make-less-35000/
It’s tough because the snopes article moves between individual and household income amounts–which are two very different things. Kinda wish articles were written more clearly, and provided contextual data regarding how many households have multiple earners.
Yes. If you add up mine and all five of my roommates in our one bedroom apartment we make more than 35k lol
And yet you still complain. God damn millennials. Back in my day I worked hard and made 600 bajillion dollars just by moxie. You just need a nice suit and a firm handshake and you’ll easily find a better job
EDIT: also, living with other people is communism
The latest (2022) “median net compensation” from SSA is $40,847.18
Come on, it can’t be half and half. Won’t somebody think about the poor bastards making EXACTLY 35k?
Is it not more suited for firstworldproblems? 35k a year is what most people in the world can’t dream about. World median is less than 3.5k
Flaunt that privilege! Yeah people who make 3.5k a year don’t have to pay 1-2k a month in rent. But you took that into account right?
Technically, our standard of living is much much lower. A lot of us don’t have water heating, so we just shower (or dunk, if you use a pail, because some of us can’t afford showers) with cold water, unless you want to spend precious time and fuel to boil it. I see Americans who glorify cold showers, saying that it develops you as a person. Heating and cooling is a no-brainer for Americans, but many of us are still hesitant to use air conditioning even at 30°C. In my country, we still have regular service (water and electricity) interruptions, even in the cities. Yes, rent can be lower outside of major cities, but development is centralised there, so you’d rather move to those cities anyway. I would hear of families having to seek treatment in a more developed city, because their city doesn’t have resources.
Why would you bet that? I just think that what you see as a dystopia is what most of the world can’t even dream about. Does not mean that what you are experiencing is great, but from the outside of the “rich bubble” it does look as a funny complaint. Now that is the dystopia for you.
While you’re completely correct, the cost of living in America is also much higher than than the world median.
What we really should be looking at is the ratio of pay : cost of living but raw salary is just easier for the masses to see and be mad about.
As an example, 3.5k USD is about my monthly bills.
3.5k USD monthly is a lot. If I might ask where does this amount come from? I looked at rent prices a bit and they are not really much higher from where I live right now while the average salary is more than 4 times lower here.
I mean everyone added together, mortgage, car payment, various insurance premiums, utilities, groceries, etc
My mortgage is $1200 of that, though.
Where I live in the US you’re lucky to get away with 2-3k in rent for a decent place and then you still have to pay utilities, car insurance, gas, groceries, etc. A minimum monthly budget can easily reach 3500.
Have you tried voting