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Impressive, I guess, but how many of those 2 million posts have a single comment? If 90% of these are just bots reposting things from Reddit with no further engagement…

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The content will bring in users. I try to comment on interesting topics to help drive engagement.

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126 points

This is my thoughts as well. I’ve noticed that once one or two people express interest in a post, it tends to get much more traffic

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I used to lurk like crazy on reddit. I had a nearly 12 year old account that mainly had a few comments here and there months apart, and only a few posts but ever since moving to Lemmy I’ve found myself actually posting relatively frequently to help build some of the smaller communities I’m in that have also migrated.

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18 points

Keep it up. I wish people would bring themself to comment so they count as active users.

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12 points

I’m exactly the same. I feel like the opportunity to have a productive conversation on Lemmy is a lot higher. There are fewer of us right now but we are the motivated minority kicking Reddit to the curb for its terrible actions and we want to see Lemmy thrive.

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(post comment edit - if you put things inside < > as your entire post, Lemmy will eat it. Cool>

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Only if the content is organic. Look at !photoshopbattles@lemmy.world . Full of bot posts from reddit with 0 comments. Even if one of them gets a comment, it would get drowned out by the subsequent bot posts. Blindly filling a community with bot posts would eventually make people unsub from it.

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I’m sure those bots are well intended, but I would rather not see bots just copying posts from reddit blindly. When you sort all by new, it’s just a swamp of bot posts.

Edit: So I checked to verify my claim and most are from @bot@lemmit.online iirc and you can just block that account to stop seeing all the automated posts from reddit

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10 points

It depends on the content.

Some of content really depends on OP being in the comments, like AmITheAsshole. Just reposting doesn’t give the kind of interaction that the original post would have.

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7 points

Ongoing discussion—i.e., comments replying to other comments, not just posts—drives engagement as much as content. If the post-to-comment ratio is too high, active commenters are less likely to encounter each other in the sea of automated posts.

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4 points

You’re doing it right. That’s exactly how to build momentum! 💪

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3 points

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/fW8amMCVAJQ

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

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35 points

Hey! Some of those posts with no comments are me posting pictures of cute bugs that I took! I’m not a bot, I’m just not very interesting.

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Hah, that sounds like me! I started a few communities in places where I knew I could supply some OC, and so far its been mostly just me posting my stuff, but I’m stoked whenever I get comments!

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I just subbed to your nature patterns community! I love the idea! I will keep an eye out and hope I can contribute some neat things soon!

And since I notice you are a gardener, you may be interested in my !beebutts@lemmy.world community. It’s about bees… and their butts… I’ve also got !awwnverts@lemmy.world for the front side of the bees, and all of their adorable invertebrate friends.

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17 points

That was my initial thought. The bots are working overtime.

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12 points

No doubt, it’s a chicken or egg problem.

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13 points

Well the same page lists comments per day for the same period as 11,083,555. A ratio of 5.27 comments per post seems fine.

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Yeah, a ratio means nothing if the bulk of the comments are only on a small portion of the posts. If 90% of the posts have 0 comments and the other 10% have 52.7 comments per post, that’s worth knowing.

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11 points

And when comments are measured, you can say ‘but it’s just a small group making lots of comments’.

And when users are measured, you can say ‘but they’re just lurkers’.

Etc, etc. You can always naysay everything. This is impressive growth.

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The problem is that without an effective way to ID bot content then stats like this could be covering up the real trends in human users, particularly in any stat that purports to measure all lemmy instances since we already know there are instances out there filled with thousands of bot users

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1 point

“Nayyyyyy.”

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8 points

What Lemmy needs now more than anything is commenters. If the site is to succeed, it needs robust comment sections.

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10 points

It does need that, but it also needs dedicated posters for small niche communities that keep posting into the void so that when someone eventually stumbles over they won’t go “aw it’s dead here, I guess Lemmy isn’t for me” but will actually find some content to engage with instead.

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2 points

Totally agree. Each sub top mod should submit one good post per day at a minimum.

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6 points

Engage this! 🤜

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2 points

Assimilate this! 🔫

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3 points

I only miss one or two subs, all other places I used to engage with are here and active. I would say there are less bots here.

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2 points

Unfortunately it seems that MAUs are steadily declining as well.

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151 points

All I’m missing is the more niche communities to grow. It’s good to see lots of memes and engagement but a man needs more.

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55 points

Be the more you want to see

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42 points

It’s kind of hard to have thriving discussions on niche topics as one person, unfortunately.

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27 points

Gotta start somewhere. Yell into the void! Maybe there are some ears you didn’t see.

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9 points

Share posts you like from reddit from time to time. Ultimately, people will start to talk.

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5 points

Whatchu wanna talk about, friend? Let’s get niche-y!

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7 points

I posted, I’m gonna do more,I just don’t have that much important content to create unfortunately.

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6 points

If I have a question that I’d usually search on reddit for, i just make a post here instead and drum up content for the future, plus I usually get way more than I asked for from people as almost everyone here is a damn genius and usually very polite and understanding.

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4 points

Not just communities, but niche instances. Having everyone on just a few instances isn’t good.

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4 points

How do you create communities?

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Go to your instance homepage, lemmy.ml then in the sidebar there should be a create community button, or if on mobile it may be hidden in the … menu button

edit: accidentally deleted this comment so just reposting.

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104 points

Man, I really hope more traffic starts heading into some of the more niche communities because getting a new thread every day or there and getting 1 or 2 replies - if that - is not how you sustain a site.

Are there really that few people into cars or engineering or DIY stuff on Lemmy?! Where the fuck are my fellow car and tinkering nerds at? And no one does projects around the house? So few posts in some of the home owner communities as well.

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40 points

We really need more bread-stapled-to-trees content. That shit held Reddit up

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11 points

What are we waiting for guys? Get your beads and let’s head outside!

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31 points

I think part of the problem is finding communities.

I search for things, but they all look so small I assume that can’t be the proper one and end up not joining it. I’m not convinced I’m seeing the full list of what’s out there.

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12 points

So much this! Can there really be only a dozen or so posts in a community as wide as cars? Like seriously? I must have some setting messed up.

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Take it easy. Reddit has more than 400 millions users, Lemmy hasn’t even broken into 70k MAU. The long tail is not yet that long here.

If we want to get rid of the walled gardens, we need to have patience and cultivate our own. Join the communities you care about and stick with a discipline of posting one or two posts every day, no matter the source. Even if you have to browse the equivalent subreddit, get the link, send a DM to the original author about it to let them know they can post on Lemmy as well.

People are not going to jump over night to here, but slowly we can win this one out.

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This has been super helpful for finding communities outside of my instance lemm.ee, as many of them may not be discoverable without 1st searching for the exact community link

https://lemmyverse.net/communities

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That’s a really useful site.

I’m not sure why it’s showing such a small number when I search for it using my instance. e.g. searching for “games” shows !games@lemmy.world has 83 subscribers, while your link shows 19,400. Is it just showing the number of subscribers from my instance on there, or some number when it was first found by my instance or what?

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Okay. I’m going to be stupid and ask the basic question

I’m on lemm.ee and my feed is interesting enough so if I fuck with it I could make it worse.

But let’s say I want to see more of https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy (or something smaller) on my feed how do I do that?

I was going to wait for an app and go from there. But I’m not sure which one has swam to the top of most recommended (I used rif on Reddit and enjoyed that)

Edit: I’m going to try sync. I’ll work it out from that

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True, I think the “lemmy is so confusing to join” concerns are overblown (just make an account?), but admittedly the community finding part is… not intuitive. People really aren’t seeing everything that’s out there through the standard search if their instance isn’t federated with the instance where the target community is hosted, or no one on their instance has searched for that community before. Having to go offsite for tools to find communities is a poor experience.

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30 points

I’ll message my dude Mark to join up, mother fucker loves anything mechanical.

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29 points

Looking forward to having Mark on here

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12 points

I also choose that guy’s Mark

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Most of us are probably computer nerds right now… And I think a lot of people are afraid of posting their own post. It’s safer to just comment. But Lemmy is a very friendly community, so I think maybe people need to adjust from reddit a bit.

If you are reading this and haven’t made a post, make one now. :) Even if it’s just about asking why nobody posts in a specific community. Usually gets replies.

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I have. And it did indeed get replies. Great! Then everything went dead again. Not so great.

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Think we have to be the change we want to see. I try to post some interesting link every day but it’s harder maybe to find good car or tinker articles.

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I am afraid of posting because everyone is friendly and I post hostile stuff. Willtry to post more tho.

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2 points

There are dozens of us!

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17 points

Yeah, this is my experience with Lemmy so far: it has replaced the “all” experience for me, but all my hobby / interests subs are completely dead.

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9 points

That’s ok though, because that’s how Reddit started too. They didn’t add subreddits from the start. So as long as it is providing an /all experience then I don’t see why it shouldn’t grow from there.

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Please give the names of the communities. I’m not a home owner, but I love cars, DIY and tinkering :)

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3 points

Yeeaah, where are these car communities? I’d post in them!

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0 points

Are you me?

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I think the biggest problem with bootstrapping niche communities is that people interested in those topics have to search for and find the communities. There are a few resources for finding new communities such as https://lemmyverse.net/communities and the Reddit migration community, but it takes some effort.

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Yes and it doesn’t help that communities change servers or something and apparently if you don’t change the settings you lose them from your subscribed list.

Seems like a rather shortsighted way of doing things if you ask me.

Also someone posted that the same name can be used on multiple instances, so like do you have to subscribe to all of them? Why have so many? Why would that be allowed? Makes little sense.

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That’s just a consequence of decentralization. That’s why all names are qualified by the instance name as well. It’s not perfect, but we’ll, on Reddit if someone picked the sub name you wanted then you’re sol and have to choose a different name, so there’s pros and cons to each. Simply subscribe to the most active version of the community you’re interested in and network effects will pick the winner.

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2 points

I found this community finder a few days ago, and its really helped me find what I’m looking for

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What are some of those communities you’re in for cars and tinkering? I was subscribed to both of those topics on reddit and am looking to join. I think there are probably lots like me who are here but not quite up and running.

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I used the Communities link and searched for cars and DIY and engineering and subed to any of the ones which seem to have even a little bit of traffic (in the hopes that maybe things would increase eventually). For car ones, literally just “Cars” and “electric vehicles” are the only real one I bothered to sub to. Tried looking for Subaru or WRX stuff and that came up basically empty. For tinkering there is “3d Printing” and “woodworking” but I think the woodworking one is moving servers so it might disappear. Also “Machinist” but there’s no traffic in that one. Which is the case for far too many of the ones that come up.

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6 points

Link to these communities.

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I think part of it is a discovery problem. Which, I know, I don’t want some algorithm telling me what content to look at, but it’s tough to find all the stuff I’m interested in just by searching.

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As I replied to someone else, it doesn’t help that the content moves around. Was a post in one of the subs (are they even called subs here?) that they were changing servers which apparently would mean they’d disappear if you didn’t change your settings too. For such a simple thing, you’d think it would be automatic.

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4 points

they are called communities here

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4 points

Those niche communities will remain dead for years (assuming Lemmy grows and doesn’t die). It takes a long time to build these up.

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7 points

Seems like every major transition from social media platform reduces that length of time for niche communities. It also took Reddit a while to get there as well. But people are already looking for identical communities on lemmy, like the tree ents

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4 points

is it just me or is a lot of what a see are Linux/tech users mostly on lemmy, perhaps that could be why some niche communities haven’t blossomed here yet. I’m really big into metalcore music, but so far, there really isn’t the same type of community that rivals the Reddit metalcore version.

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There are sooooo many Linux folks here, it’s crazy. Which is fine if that’s what they want to use, but yeah this site has certain groups that overwhelm others.

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3 points

Agreed. Having a nice front page with a whole bunch of things is great, but not having those niche communities is rough even doing the transition

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Where the fuck are my fellow car and tinkering nerds at? And no one does projects around the house? So few posts in some of the home owner communities as well.

I’m right here, where are you guys? Still looking for a good homeowner and DIY community on lemmy.

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Homeassistant, HomeImprovement and woodworking are the only ones that I found that are mildly related and even then the traffic there is sparse.

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I’ve created https://communick.news/c/makers a while ago, it would be great to have more people there.

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We’re near critical mass and the more we share the apps and website, it’ll pull more people in. There’s some resistance to leaving Reddit for many, but not much.

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5 points

I think the main subs are at a sustainable level, but not the niche subs. But Lemmy needs more than just politics and general news and complaining about Reddit to sustain itself.

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I agree completely and I think those niche subs will fill out as we grow.

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1 point

Suggestion: create a post in a niche community, and then cross post into a large one.

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The reason I’m yet to post any threads is because sync is yet to add that ability. But the moment it is added I’ve got a few things to post. For now I’ll continue to upvote n comment

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94 points

Over half my feed is just low effort memes or auto posted arstechnica articles. Does this data include bot posts?

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60 points

Half the posts are also just people specualting about activity on lemmy.

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30 points

Also, there is approximately 50% of postings reserved for whinging about the speculation of activity on Lemmy.

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11 points

That makes just about 100% then.

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The data I am interested in is on postings that are whinging about postings that are whinging. It’s the metawhinge factor that really measures the health of a community

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4 points

Don’t forget all the updates about what’s going on at that other site.

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I mean I’ve been posting Moldy Memes on the memes page. Mainly just to share my ancient saved stuff, and to help boost the meme page up with more posts. I do understand the frustration, but hopefully more, active users will come around.

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My feed has zero memes (except those form !risa@startrek.website which obv do not qualify as “low effort”). I think unlike with Reddit, what you see if what you subscribe to. If you don’t like what you’re seeing, change your subscriptions. Not having Reddit force stuff into the feed is nice but it also means everyone is fully responsible for what they’re seeing.

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I think unlike with Reddit, what you see if what you subscribe to.

This was also the case with Reddit, unless you intentionally went to /r/all? Or am I misunderstanding you? To clarify I always used RIF or went to old.reddit and was never force-fed any content from outside my subscriptions, when I stuck to the home-page.

If you don’t like what you’re seeing, change your subscriptions. Not having Reddit force stuff into the feed is nice but it also means everyone is fully responsible for what they’re seeing.

You make a good point, but I think here’s where the current downside of Lemmy comes in, discoverability between instances are pretty bothersome and not easily handled unless you again, go to your instance /all and check what other communities other people on the instance are subscribed to.

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Unless you were using old.Reddit, there is a lot of inserted and suggested content now.

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I would assume so. But I see quite some organic content as well, with good interactions in the comment sections. I’m pretty happy. 90% of what was on reddit was of no interest to me as tends to be the case with any large content aggregator.

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3 points

Half the posts since yesterday are people bitching about Sync ultra costing the same amount of money as a Costco hotdog combo once a month. 🙄

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2 points

Trying to prune and maintain the All feed is a huge task at the moment, especially since some content might be the type of stuff you want to see sometimes, so just blocking News or Memes isn’t a perfect solution.

Having Tags for posts for easier filtering would be great, but right now sticking to a carefully selected subscribed feed has been easier, for me at least.

There are some apps - like Connect and Sync - that allow filtering keywords, domains and entire instances, should you want to try to control your All feed.

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Yeah it’s quite a game of whack a mole to get rid of all those memes subs and their bot content… it’s actually worse than on reddit it seems.

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85 points

I wonder how the graph will look in a month’s time now that Sync is in open beta.

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As someone who never used Sync before, trust me, it will spike like crazy. I don’t know why I never used it before but this an amazing experience. If you’re reading this and trying to find a Lemmy app to use and don’t care about FOSS, get Sync ASAP

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45 points

As someone who has been using sync for reddit for years, the app has come a long way and learned a lot over that time, and pretty much all of that is transferred over to the Sync for Lemmy app. The sync for Lemmy app really has a huge head start thanks to the Sync for Reddit app.

I remember when Reddit was releasing their app, they appeared to base it on Sync, and you can still see a lot of that influence today. I remember the Sync dev thinking it was all over for his app, since Reddit is copying his design and surely has a team that can develop a good app, but obviously Reddit stole a good design and ruined it.

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21 points

A lot of that came from Alien Blue too (rip)

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10 points

how does it compare to jerboa and connect, ive been meaning to switch full time to connect but im just used to jerboa now even though I miss that swipe to next post feature

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20 points

I’ve been using 5 different apps trying to find my favourite and I like Jerboa the most, until yesterday when I found Sync.

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Boost for Reddit all time user here so I’d never tried Sync before. When I took a dive to Lemmy, I tried Jerboa because it was the closest thing to Boost, great little app, but it think it needs some aesthetic polishing. The I tried Connect, and oh boy it’s fast, functional, pretty (although it needs some design polishing also), and I made it look like the closest to the classic Boost list view.

Then Sync for Lemmy was released and I wanted to know what was all the hype about. How could it be as good or better than Boost for Reddit?, I thought. Well, two days and I’m seriously thinking if I ever going to switch to Boost for Lemmy when it becomes available. Blew my mind!

Yes, there are some things not quite there yet (not being able to submit posts the major flaw for me), but design wise is just aeons ahead of any other Lemmy app.

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It’s just the new gold standard. Every app trying to compete for the biggest userbase will have to match or beat Sync.

Apps that ignore Sync and just target at FOSS minded users will share the remaining portion of the pie.

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I only used Jerboa, but sync is far superior. Jerboa was so glitchy, it worked about half the time. Sync is very smooth and the developer is on it about fixing any glitches that may pop up. I’ve been using lemmy with jerboa since reddit closed the door on 3rd party apps, and I couldn’t be more relieved to have sync back.

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I copied this from another comment of mine. My advice is just give it a shot! The set up is super quick and the app just works.

For features: incredibly customizable material design. Extremely fluid. A lot of view customization. Comment drafts are something I missed on voyager.

Paid exclusive features: Cloud backups, user specific highlighting and theming, pull text from images, translate text, saved post folders (coming soon). No ads (yes the other apps don’t have ads and are generally free).

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Sync is Jerboa and Connect with the best ux :)

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10 points

OK, convinced. Gonna try.

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5 points

I always thought Sync for Reddit looked cool, but never found myself comfortable with it because RIF existed, and I always felt more comfortable with it.

I’m now using Sync and it is pretty great, but in my case it required some UI fiddling. It looks like Material Design 3, but I feel there’s something wrong with the default values for font and text size nothing that is unfixable, but just… Weird

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8 points

Tweaking things to meet your usage is fantastic in Sync. The dev has some weird defaults, but assumes you want to tweak almost everything.

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Settings shortcut: General > Base font size

I also struggled with this until I found this setting.

Ps. Be sure to set the other fonts to small, or it’s going to be so large.

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2 points

RIF is hot garbage for UI though.

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6 points

Would be great if all previous reddit apps went to lemmy. I personally can’t wait for Baconreader for Lemmy.

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8 points

Apollo going to Lemmy would be the ultimate middle finger to Spez, especially with the false accusations of blackmail.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ll keep using Sync as it’s actually good.

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Lemmy is fun.

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