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Let them not be forgotten

This is a large album of images from the protests in Beijing in 1989. It gives the historical context for the events leading up to the “tank man” photo, and what happened after.

Warning: blood, gore, visible injuries, death

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I uploaded this pictures in my old Xiaomi cloud account. It took almost 100 MB out of 5 GB free space. Other 4.9 GB is taken by Winnie the Pooh pictures and memes about Xi.

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I’ll never understand how the tankies can claim it never happened when there’s so many pictures like this available.

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Even Lemmygrad says there were 300 deaths. I really can’t find anyone saying it straight up didn’t happen, not even the CPC itself. The closest is saying that the massacre happened outside the square, which seems more of a technicality that both “sides” rely on to pretend the other is making stuff up. Ie, Lemmygrad claiming others know nothing because there was no massacre on the square itself and it all happened outside, while others see that as outright denial.

Lemmygrad also believes it was CIA-backed and turned a pro-Maoist, anti-Dengist protest into an anti-Maoist, anti-Dengist, pro-Liberal Democracy/Capitalist protest, which I would say ultimately doesn’t change that protestors were murdered even if that was true.

I think it’s helpful to see what people are actually saying, you can better argue it to be an atrocity that way. For example, as above, even if it was steered in a different direction by western forces, it still had popular support and as such was still an unjust escalation of force into massacre.

The massacre is undeniable.

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Interestingly, and having done a bit of extra reading, the current Western position is that the killings didn’t actually happen in the square itself, but in the surrounding streets as the army was pushing through Beijing to reach Tiananmen Square. Some of the initial reports that came out were evidently erroneous. Again, that’s internal communications in the USA acknowledging that. But still very awful and hundreds of people killed according to that version of events.

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Yes. They try and minimize it as much as they possibly can. I’ve seem them claim on here that nobody was killed and that nothing happened at Tiananmen square.

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Still they give counterfactual assertions the same way Trump supporters give counter factual assertions about their lame coup attempt on Jan. 6. “It was a secret plot by someone else!!”

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Thanks for sharing. Every time I see a picture of the Tiananmen Square massacre I get shivers. That man is one of the most amazing icons of resistance against oppression. I like to think of myself as brave but I’m genuinely skeptical if I’d have the courage to stand in front of a tank that way.

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Oh wow a .ml account denying Chinese atrocities how rare oh my gosh.

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I like when they speak up because then I can tag them “Certified Tankie™” on sync

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I’m starting to feel like I made my account on the wrong instance if those people are the average

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Atrocity denial is not welcome here, and neither are the people who engage in it.

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I agree but I think it’s too bad that someone needs to choose between deleting a comment to stop the spread of lies and propaganda and the other option of leaving it in place so people can see it. I think it’s helpful to see that people like this exist, it helps you understand why people are opposed to these types of people and who is being called a tankie in a negative way.

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Says the dude who habitually justifies American involvement in the genocide of the Palestinian people.

BeCaUsE tRuMp!

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Even the Chinese government says a couple hundred civilians died. “At the end of June 1989, the Chinese government said 200 civilians and several dozen security personnel had died. Other estimates have ranged from hundreds to many thousands. In 2017, newly released UK documents revealed that a diplomatic cable from then British Ambassador to China, Sir Alan Donald, had said that 10,000 had died.”

I honestly don’t know what your goal is with that post but I choose to believe the many sources (Chinese and international) that show a different history than what you’d have me believe. At least hundreds died with thousands more injured, and that’s the low end of the estimates.

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Something something libtard something. Commumism killed bazillons, libtard thinks. Therefore commumism didn’t kill anyone. Also do you even support Palestine?

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Are you being paid, really fucking gullible, or just plain evil?

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.ml is a shit hole instance. Everyone rightfully ridiculing this post risks getting preemptively banned on ml because their dipshit tankie mods are that soft.

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Jfc, imagine loving the taste of boot this much… 🤮

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Hey! You’re the same AH trying to get people to not vote Biden, because you’re such an enlightened Democrat. Didn’t take long for your true colors to start showing lol. Western narratives lol… Okay.

Still not sure if your a Russian/Chinese national trying to act like an American, a piss poor troll, or just a truly uneducated bigot. What next mate, you want to start denying the Holocaust was real? 😂

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Go fuck yourself.

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Typical lies from Lemmy.ml.

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Don’t forget to report them.

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Can you imagine how funny it would be if anybody actually believed this take?

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Thanks for this. China keeps trying to wipe away this event by having any image deleted. It needs to be reposted and seen often.

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There are diplomatic cables from Australia and Britain about the massacre that have been declassified. Shit was fucked and I don’t know if the cables are common knowledge. That article is a great read.

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Those cables have been proven to be full of shit. Go to Wikipedia and read the accounts of the survivors that were pulled out by the CIA in Operation yellowbird https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yellowbird if you want to piece together what happened from primary sources.

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There’s also this angle

And this - NSFL

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Ya know I dont know if thats legit NSFL or if im just that desensitized to war photos. Maybe giving 12 year old me a book on the civil war that included post battle photos and sections from a contemporary medical book with photos from the mangled corpses wasnt the wisest move by my grandmother. But ya know what those photos do invoke within me absolute fucken rage.

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Removed by either automatic filter, .world mods/admins or .ee mods/admins.

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Uh oh, did they take it down?

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That’s a lot of bicycles!

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Damn malicious AI image generators trying to tarnish the good name of the CCP. Smh. (/s)

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Yeah, those horrible AI image generators of the late 80s look like garbage - most photos don’t even have colour! /s

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