Not sure where to post this so hoping here is fine.

A bit disappointed in BTN for calling Dugin “a very esteemed Russian political philosopher”…

Just yesterday learned Rainer Shea is now collaborating with Caleb Maupin which was really disappointing cause Shea had some good anti-imperialist articles.

I really didn’t need to hear this on BTN. Not sure what answers I’m looking for, I guess I’m getting paranoid about third positionist infiltration and need to hear your thoughts.

11 points

It’s either benign ignorance or a potentially problematic take. In any case… While they have a lot of decent stuff, they are not explicitly Marxist, thus the critical eye must be even more vigilant.

permalink
report
reply
5 points
*

I can’t think of any better channel on current affairs though. First thought is OK, can you recommend anything else?

Also I seriously doubt BTN staff who discuss Russian and Ukrainian affairs don’t know who Dugin is, so I guess we can safely say it’s not ignorance.

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Thank you!

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

I thought Darya Dugina being assassinated by Ukraine was the accepted narrative.

permalink
report
reply
4 points

Honestly don’t care who killed her, I removed that bit from the post.

What do you think about the way BTN described Dugin?

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

I would not have personally described him that way since he is a crank. But I think you are being a bit harsh on BT News rep here. It is possible that they just meant to say that within Russia Dugin is a renown person rather that sort of endorsing his philosophy.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

I don’t necesarily see an approval of Dugin in his statement. It could be, but don’t think that’s what he meant

permalink
report
reply
6 points

Honestly there was no need to bring up Dugin in this interview at all. Why do you think he decided to insert Dugin, in the way he did?

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

I mean, it’s relevant since they are talking about terror attacks by the west

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

WHen you say Shea, do you mean Rainer Shea?

permalink
report
reply
5 points

Yes sorry, fixed it in the post.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points
*

I’m “friends” with Rainer Shea, or at least I was. I talk to him occasionally, though not in real life.

I don’t completely trust him, but I don’t completely trust anyone in general.

He still puts out pretty decent articles and analysis, yet in my opinion he is too close to the PatSoc individuals. I don’t completely like his reasons why, but they still make some kind of sense.

In regards to Caleb Maupin, Rainer’s explanation is that even though he has done really horrible shit, he says that some of what he has done has been exaggerated or made up by his detractors (I don’t think that statement is true for the most part, but whatever) but because despite Maupin being a PatSoc, Maupin points out the neoliberal hypocrisy of our opponents and actors, such as neoliberals siding with the capitalist world order and supporting NATO’s use of Ukraine as a fleshlight/battering ram, or of neoliberals wanting to basically fucking nuke China.

I haven’t given up on Rainer, since he seems by all accounts to be a decent person who is willing to admit mistakes and flaws, and he understands how horrible and bad optics most of the PatSocs are, and there is something genuine about him that I sense.

That all being said, I hate Caleb Maupin and I agree that he really shouldn’t associate with him.

permalink
report
reply
1 point

Rainer doesn’t need PatSocs to find people who point out neoliberal hypocrisy. That’s sort of the entire point of PatSocs/NatSocs - they borrow the language of the left to steer the masses to the right. Like, Rainer’s excuse is just so misinformed that I can’t believe he’s not doing it deliberately given the quality of his analysis.

permalink
report
parent
reply

GenZedong

!genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

Create post

This is a Dengist community in favor of Bashar al-Assad with no information that can lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton, our fellow liberal and queen. This community is not ironic. We are Marxists-Leninists.

This community is for posts about Marxism and geopolitics (including shitposts to some extent). Serious posts can be posted here or in /c/GenZhou. Reactionary or ultra-leftist cringe posts belong in /c/shitreactionariessay or /c/shitultrassay respectively.

We have a Matrix homeserver and a Matrix space. See this thread for more information. If you believe the server may be down, check the status on status.elara.ws.

Rules:

  • No bigotry, anti-communism, pro-imperialism or ultra-leftism (anti-AES)
  • We support indigenous liberation as the primary contradiction in settler colonies like the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Israel
  • If you post an archived link (excluding archive.org), include the URL of the original article as well
  • Unless it’s an obvious shitpost, include relevant sources
  • For articles behind paywalls, try to include the text in the post
  • Mark all posts containing NSFW images as NSFW (including things like Nazi imagery)

Community stats

  • 642

    Monthly active users

  • 3.9K

    Posts

  • 34K

    Comments