Górny took issue with everything from the energy consumption driven by AI
This has to be a joke. The team behind a distro that compiles everything from scratch all the time is concerned about wasting power now? The only distro for which I ever setup a compile cluster?
Give me a break. This is the new luddite movement.
Gotta say your comment makes an insightful impression, however Gentoo compilations are peanuts compared to the massive energy sucking hype that A.I. is. I am glad that people speak out publicly against this insane madness. A.I. hyping during climate crisis ? Overwhelming sales of SUVs Plans to move to planet Mars Who would have guessed that years ago ?
Well it’s the training of LLMs that consumes so much energy, simply using them (for say software development purposes) (inference) probably takes less power than recompiling your Gentoo.
Gentoo compilations are peanuts compared to the massive energy sucking hype that A.I. is.
Their overall impact is low because they’re niche. It wouldn’t be if Gentoo were more popular. Imagine all of the AWS EC2 instances running Gentoo. And all of the Docker container builds still compiling glibc over and over.
Fact is they still built a horrifically inefficient system for deploying software. It’s a crazy hypocritical stance to take. AI at least provides benefit - something that can’t be said of Gentoo’s waste.
When you have multiple Gentoo machines, you compile soft once and distribute it. You would be mad to compile everything every time.
You really went looking for something to hate on there didn’t you. That is the only sentence in the whole article that even mentions power consumption, all the other arguments both fit and against are for a variety of other topics.
It seems to be that you are more likely caught up in some kind of movement if one argument from one person is enough for you to label everyone there luddites
You really went looking for something to hate on there didn’t you. That is the only sentence in the whole article that even mentions power consumption, all the other arguments both fit and against are for a variety of other topics.
The rest of the ridiculous moralizing was pretty bad as well. This was just the most egregiously stupid thing listed in the article.
I thought your comment was more ridiculous
1 person making a query has thousands of hours of computing behind it
1 person compiling software themselves does not
The original Luddite movement was literally a worker’s rights movement, and the “irrationally afraid of technology” characterization was manufactured by the ruling class, so yes. The Luddites were right then and they’re right now too.
The only problem the Luddites had is they went and busted the machines instead of the rich owners’ kneecaps.
If you say, “they did that too!” Well, NOT ENOUGH!!
As someone who regularly saves time by automating, I can’t get on board for a movement which directly opposes process improvement by improving efficiency.
But the lump of labour fallacy is wrong - in the end automation makes us all wealthier as goods become cheaper, and people can do more productive work (and be better educated for it too).
To a certain extent other distros rely on more obscure distros like gentoo which uses package compilation as the default. If upstream are not publishing code which can be reproducibly built then the gentoo maintainers are the first to know and can raise an issue.
Tell me you don’t know how FOSS works without telling me you don’t know how FOSS works…
Well I’m a Luddite (and so can you!) https://thenib.com/im-a-luddite/
More luddites please.
This is the new luddite movement.
It really is. Degrowth is destitution and death - just look at Germany.
We need to decouple electricity production from environmental damage - build renewable power and nuclear power station en masse and invest heavily in nuclear fusion.
How would they determine what is AI generated and what is not?
Every tenth line of code needs a comment break for a detailed ascii “drawing” of human hands
I don’t think that this is a hard rule. They probably look for the same signs that we do - plausible sounding utter gibberish. They just don’t want the drop in quality due to that. If an author creates content with AI, but takes their time to edit and improve it, I think that the Gentoo team may give it a pass.
A lot of butthurt techbros getting cockblocked here lmao
If you can tell the contribution is ai generated, it’s not good enough
Thank you Gentoo Linux for this.
