Well, Microsoft is getting ready to annoy its faithful Windows 10 user base with yet another prompt. This time, Microsoft wants Windows 10 users to switch from using a local account to their online Microsoft account.
Man, Microsoft really seems like they don’t want power users on their OS anymore. Forced AI junk, Ads, MS accounts, and all kinds of other junk. Waiting to see what the Linux Desktop adoption numbers are this fall.
2023 was the year of the Linux laptop for me. 2024 is shaping up to be the year of the Linux desktop for myself as well.
Still sad because my Precision 5560 (same as XPS 9510) has this floaty trackpad bug on Ubuntu and Pop OS for whatever reason! (I haven’t tried any other distro). Much easier for me to swap to Linux on my laptop than my desktop because my laptop is just for Python, LaTeX, and MATLAB.
Dell even sells a 5560 with Ubuntu preinstalled, but they don’t make it available for users. But I have not for the life of me been able to get the track-pad bug to go away.
Funny, I just picked up a Laptop for Linux. To help bring my self to a Linux Desktop.
As much as I like to see this sentiment, I think now as ever the people who actually follow through with moving to Linux will be few in number.
Most users who get fed up and decide the hell with it are likely to just buy a Mac instead, as revolting a development as that may be.
Adoption rate is increasing from what I’ve heard. But you’re right, Linux/a Linux distribution isn’t going to take over anytime soon.
But I think once those users truly switched to Linux, very few will switch back. Sure there’ll be the odd gamer who absolutely “needs” to play that one game which has anti-cheat that’s unsupported on Linux. But other than that, once you’re in, you’re likely in for good. And long-term you pass it on to your family, mainly your children (my first computer was a DOS/Windows machine mostly because my dad used the OS himself then).
yeah this was me. swapped to Mac. Couldn’t bring myself to sign up to all the debugging that would go into having a Linux based laptop. I left windows due to the overhead of disabling the bloatware, popups and general bullshit. I didn’t want to swap that for other ongoing issues. Just give me something that works. It’s an OS, not a hobby project
Yeah, but Mac is actually weird and unintuitive. Like, I never figured out that to install programs you have to drag them in. I just clicked on the icon after opening the .dmg
are likely to just buy a Mac instead
That’s fine, actually. I can talk to a Mac user. I can say things like “it’s in a folder under your Home directory” and they will know exactly where that is. Windows users will just stare at you, slack-jawed and drooling.
Windows user A will not know what their home directory is and will respond as described. Windows user B will assume that it is their “my documents” folder, which may or may not be the case, because: Windows user C will know that there are effectively three home directories in Windows (/users/username, /users/username/documents, and /users/username/appadata/local) but that won’t help anybody determine which one some program actually put the goddamn file in.
Knock it off, Microsoft. You’re not my buddy, you’re an OS. Your job is to sit down, shut up, and run the programs I choose. That’s it.
If I find a function that’s useful for more than a week, I might make a batch file for it. Until then, you’re spare code.
Personally I love that Microsoft did this. Please keep making windows more and more shit and annoying to use so people will switch to something else
You vastly underestimate the tolerance of an average user who barely knows their way around a web browser and Word.
My mom doesn’t even have a computer. She’s already retired so there’s not much money to squeeze from that demographic. In my late 20s, 30s and 40s I could build a new computer no problem. I use Linux. There’s no going back ever. Unfortunately I use windows at work cuz I’m forced to do that and I occasionally have to help my wife to windows some shit. No, my kids are going down the Linux rabbit hole.
Windows users will add a new PowerShell command or registry hack to the pile of shit to do to clean up a fresh install, and keep complaining that Linux is too hard.
Lol yeah I keep hearing about the commands and stuff people have to do at Win11 installation to stop it from forcing you to have an account or satisfy MS’s ridiculous TPM requirements. I hear about the commands people run to disable (most) telemetry, and the registry edits people use to prevent Windows from spawning ads, etc.
And I’m like damn, why is windows so complicated? It should never be required that a user open a terminal/command prompt.
I turned it off two weeks ago by installing Mint.
“oh, just switch to Linux”
Oh, just shut up already. On Linux my fingerprint reader doesn’t work, my Adobe apps doesn’t run, my Concepts app doesn’t run. Not everybody works in IT, and many of us actually run apps other than Office ones.
This shit sucks, and I’ll support every tool that fixes and neuters Microsoft attacks to the user space because my work apps are there.
Lemmy users generally subscribe to the philosophy of “if everyone just thought exactly like me then the world would be utopia”
The actual solution is to pirate Windows 10 LTSC IOT from 1337x.to (microsoft’s debloated version of W10 for sysadmins, it tends to get leaked) for a usable everyday system. The only Linux setups that are possible to daily drive (aren’t unstable) are Linux Mint and an Arch setup with Hyprland if you know what you’re doing - anything else has serious issues in my experience. Even if you got Adobe and Office apps running (which is possible in some cases), both the most used desktop environments on Linux (GNOME and KDE) are incredibly buggy messes. Literally half of all ‘distros’ are just trying to make sure those two desktop envs aren’t launching nuclear bombs on your machine
XFCE is a pain-free desktop environment, so Xubuntu is my system of choice for personal use.
But in the office I just can’t unilaterally decide to ditch Windows. And while I do have access to an admin account to fix some annoyances, it’s not like I can run a custom OS so far removed from the regular user accounts that I wouldn’t be able to replicate their issues.
The actual solution is to pirate Windows 10 LTSC IOT
Awesome. Amazing. Thankyou. This looks great.
That said, the rest of your comment is a bit… arrogant? Especially after complaining that Lemmy users are arrogant. Linux didn’t work for you and / or your use case. Fine. Everything else works fine for loads of other people.
I primarily run Linux but absolutely understand the need for things that only work with windows so I dual boot. That being said I use AtlasOS which cleans up W10 pretty good. I don’t have any of the crappiness that is currently hitting users.
Also here’s another site that has some information on AtlasOS as well as some other tools.
https://www.xbitlabs.com/best-custom-windows-10-iso-for-gaming/
I know it says for gaming but I use solidworks as well as some other software and my idle resource usage has went way down and it runs so much better.
I had high hopes for Atlas for gaming.
I formatted and started a fresh install. My main games (League Of Legends, Escape from Tarkov) would not install, with various errors. Then I ran into system errors with permissions.
Also came across this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctONKQByx-M
Back to Win10 Pro + debloat script.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=ctONKQByx-M
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
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Agreed.
I tried Solus once back in 2019-ish when I first learned Bash at work because I found it cool. Then came the games that were incompatible with Proton / Wine, and the many painful hours of trying to debug why Mass Effect Andromeda kept crashing after 30 mins of runtime (no solution found). In the end I just swapped back to Windows because I didn’t want to do what I already did at work during the weekends.
I like Linux, but until a majority of game developers prioritize development for Linux I’ll stick to Windows. I could dual boot Linux and Windows, but I suspect I’ll just do everything on Windows in the end lol
The IT argument actually supports your argument, not necessarily against it. I work in IT and from home, and my company only works with Linux in limited capacities. Most of our tools and most of our clients are Windows based. Sure, I have Linux vms and such, but at the current moment switching my main OS is a hassle that I’ll go through later.
Oh, oh, yes shut up. We already know some apps are available only for certain platforms and have different set of supported drivers.
Why have the same arguments over and over. If the only disadvantage of the clearly better thing is popularity, then don’t shut up people taking time questionably promoting it.
Why have the same arguments over and over.
You realize the main thing said in this thread apart from people complaining about it, are all people saying “just switch to Linux.”
On Linux my fingerprint reader doesn’t work
Your WHAT? How stupid does one have to be to even use fingerprints on technology they do not fully control, and that has network access? facepalm
I’m sure the smartphone you’re using right now is all under your control with no network access right? 🤦
Seriously, what’s up with all those trolls on lemmy?
They’re not trolls, just Unix-pilled dumbasses who can’t accept their 4% club isn’t the literal holy grail they want it to be.
Linux is great, yeah. You know what else is great? Playing games. Not debugging drivers. Stable configurations. Not sucking Torvalds’ dick. Coming home after my job and just doing whatever the fuck I want on my PC, instead of putting on my “Linux user” overalls and going back to what is basically another job, trying and failing to get the fucking OS to do one teensy little thing that there are 50 half-documented solutions for, 49 of which don’t work.
Nobody used Adobe whatever 30 years ago and I bet that 30 years ago there were people working on video and graphics to sell products and to make photos 😁. Meaning stop using those tools. The tools don’t make the artist.
I’ll give you the benefit of doubt instead of calling you a troll, so I’ll say this: Stop using your smartphone, right now. Nobody used GPS and people managed to cross oceans. Nobody had mobile phones and people managed to get in touch just fine. Nobody had text apps, they sent letters and used paper to take notes. They went to the bank to see how much money they had on their account. They went to music stores to browse CDs.
So give up you phone, right now, and all the conveniences it gives you. Then ask for a friend to text here after a year and tell me how it was.
I don’t use Outlook. I haven’t used an email app for years. I’m now stuck in Gmail hell with multiple accounts. That’s not better. I’m trying to stop using Gmail and go to an open source app with my own server. It can be done. You can live without the Adobe shit. The reason is simple. How many TV commercials have you authored in the past 3 months? I’m guessing 0. I rest my case. Not as an insult, it’s just maybe you don’t need all the fancy tools. Back when I had a stick shift carburetor car I could understand everything. Now I have a Prius and I understand some of it. The Prius makes it easy to drive and I don’t have to think about shifting or anything. But when it comes to the nuts and bolts in a possible moment of need I’m going to be down 1000 bucks or more if the thing stops working in the middle of nowhere. Are you going to loose out if you stop using Adobe apps?
Obligatory “switch to Linux to turn it off” comment.
But honestly, Windows becoming more annoying and actively working against me is the reason I finally switched 4 months ago. It wasn’t that Windows is proprietary, or that Linux has some technological advantages (as Windows probably has others) or that I disliked the desktop environment or whatever. It got in my way, and that’s disrespectful and time consuming. I don’t want my OS to get in my way, I want to do things with my computer.
The irritating thing about all this is, at least if Raymond Chen is to be believed, the OS letting you do what you want without getting in your way was actually a/the core design philosophy of Windows up until probably the end of the XP era. It seems with Vista they started losing the plot, and by the time of Windows 8 Microsoft had fully committed to going completely off the rails.
