It was a different time.
It was extremely racist even at the time, but it was also a different time.
Yes, and oddly also somehow no. Yes, people were often super racist by modern standards, but there was also a less polarized societal climate and stuff like this flew by without anyone batting an eye or feeling offended over a costume like this.
Inclusion is of course better nowadays but I miss the innocence the past. People were much better taking bad takes in stride.
E: because it needs clarification, again: This isnt an american perspective. Stop assuming everyone was racist as fuck to black people just because you guys kept them as slaves, thanks
Yes, people were often super racist by modern standards, but there was also a less polarized societal climate and stuff like
It’s funny, people always say this, but it just isn’t true. Like somehow racism was okay for awhile, and everyone just agreed on that. I think about the following quotes
[…] They’re violent, they’re vicious, they’re ignorant, and they will cut us up. That’s their intent. To cut us up. [To Juror #7.] I’m warning you. This boy, this boy on trial here. We’ve got him. That’s one at least. I say get him before his kind gets us. I don’t give a goddamn about the law." -Juror #10
“It’s very hard to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. And wherever you run into it, prejudice always obscures the truth.” -Juror #8.
These are quotes from a 1954 teleplay. We didn’t just suddenly decide one day “hey wait a minute, prejudice against someone based on skin colour… is stupid, and wrong!” It always was, and we always knew it, but we didn’t stop it until an event moved us to.
Inclusion is of course better nowadays but I miss the innocence the past
I mean this in the least offensive way possible, but I am also a white male, and I think you’ll find that the past isn’t so innocent.
I totally agree, especially when slavery was around everyone was just super cool with dehumanizing a group of people, and society was really good with just taking that hit in stride. /s obviously
Tolerance of racist ideas isn’t really less racist. Asserting that no one was offended over this costume back in the day is a pretty bad take and just isn’t true.
I agree with what I think you’re saying. Idk if this guy wearing black face means he’s racist. It’s just him participating in the cultural phenomenon of OJ in a way he doesn’t realize is super incentive.
The thing is, the same guy today would not have put on black face. Because today, people who do this would be fired from their jobs, because it’s racist to put on black face and in today’s less racist society, you’re more likely to be punished for being racist.
stuff like this flew by without anyone batting an eye or feeling offended over a costume like this.
betty white
Things weren’t really more racist in the early 90’s. People were just much less “PC”.
I think we’ve swung too far the other way, really. Now everything is “offensive”, no matter how mundane, and in turn, everyone feels offended over the most petty of stuff. Things don’t seem to be better from it since more people are depressed, medicated, and diagnosed with mental health issues, but with all the other variables it’s impossible to really tell.
There’s a self-compounding nature to racist/sexist humor. When you teach everyone “this is what comedy is” - which bear in mind the filters through which mainstream entertainment passes are also power structures created by privilege and money - then that shapes what comedy will be.
It’s as much an effort to make things less PC as it is to make things more PC.
There’s a reason why The Dead Parrot Sketch, The Knights of Ni and The Ministry of Funny Walks are Monty Python’s most famous sketches and Mrs >!N Word!< (yes, really), “No Poofters” (British equivalent of “no fags”) and “Attila the Hun’s Uncle Tom” (replete with blackface) aren’t.
Same reason Robin Williams is well remembered for Aladdin and Mrs Doubtfire and not for his racially insensitive stand up bits.
I think that’s a good thing. Comedy has always operated “at the speed of fun” and in a society what is fun will always change. They used to hold bear baiting before Shakespeare’s plays - something that even the most anti-woke pundit would truly be shocked by - if I tortured a bear to death for fun in front of a paying audience.
And why should you grin and bear rape jokes, racist jokes etc especially when most of them really aren’t very funny beyond “thing different.” And… all of them have already been made! It’s hard to write a new racist joke (and please don’t try in the replies) because they’re not really that clever.
You say that, but in the same leg, Richard Pryor’s stand up is still considered to be S tier stuff, and it was filled with very non PC comedy. Same of the Chapelle show and in the “funny because it’s so wrong” category, but still very much funny, the longest running live action sitcom ever in the US, “It’s always Sunny in Philadelphia”.
Also, comedy has never been a “rich and powerful” trickle down art for as long as I can recall. It’s been the complete opposite of that.
Here’s my pet hypothesis (that has zero backing that I’m aware of) regarding the increase* in mental health issues:
When our parents, their grandparents, etc, grew up, they all broke a metaphorical bone (the metaphor being some sort of trauma). Maybe their parents beat them or ignored them, maybe they had undiagnosed conditions, etc. And this has been the norm for no one knows how long. And part of that norm was never treating it. It was the norm. So like an untreated broken bone, it was really obvious that something’s busted, but since literally everyone had a fucked up bone sticking out, no one thought it strange.
Along comes some mental healthcare. Some few people embraced it and had the bone broken and reset. Hoo buddy did it suck, but was ultimately a good thing. Now they can reach the box of cereal on top of the fridge with either hand. More, they could do things they had completely ignored because their previously broken bone prevented them from doing so. And so these people realize that the norm of broken bones is shit. They go on to encourage others to have their bones fixed, though that’s a bit of a non-starter. Now they are the weird ones for not having broken bones.
More effective is this message with the younger generation. “Don’t accept broken bones, get treated immediately”. And they listen to their elders as they are taught and they get treatment. Now, this is kinda new, actually addressing issues as they come up instead of just walking it off. There is some calibration space that needs to happen (looks at the rise and over prescription of ADHD meds when I was a kid). But less than you think, because broken bones are so common that everyone in history has had at least one.
Now, when the older generation tells them to walk it off, they balk and say that that’s dumb because, largely, it is. And there isn’t a nice measure of severity that exists. You only know how painful your broken bone is and it doesn’t happen enough to give perspective on the variety in general. To say nothing of some people’s broken bone affecting how they feel said bone (I experience alexithymia). So the younger generation does their best at assessing their broken bone because mental healthcare is pretty garbage since (among a lot of other things) it hasn’t scaled to a population that all wants it. And the older generation controls the purse strings and mental healthcare can’t expand because the people with the money think we should all walk it off (glad I could work this into a low-grade indictment of capitalism).
Obviously there are many other factors (lead poisoning, microplastics, looming environmental apocalypse for starters), but this is my extremely poorly sourced hypothesis. Not a theory, hypothesis.
I think this is probably still happening today in a lot of ways that we will look very ignorant to future generations.
Stress (work, money, social), loneliness, the whole “gig-economy” that’s become so ubiquitous that we stopped using the term even though people are still working three jobs to survive. Constant news of violence around the globe, school shootings. The worsening commodification of our attention through social media. Shit’s still fucked.
That’s so racist you don’t even look Asian
Oof levels: HIGH
Yikes.
This would’ve been an amazing themed costume if it weren’t for the blackface. Dude could’ve just worn a Simpson jersey.