47 points

Android is FOSS tho

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Tell that to Google…

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Google having their own proprietary crap embedded in their version doesnt make AOSP not FOSS.

Thats the entirety of the basis for things like GrapheneOS, despite Google gobbling it up.

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28 points

Not technically no, though neither does it fully embrace the spirit of FOSS either. Anyway I was explaining the appearance of those two being at odds with one another in the meme. Anyone who does not enjoy meme content can simply block this community and move on with the serious side of life.:-)

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23 points

yeah just like Chromium technically speaking

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6 points

Android is FOSS, but is your phone FOSS?

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8 points

i use a foss rom, so its software is.

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34 points

Ubuntu touch stans:

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11 points

Get a haircut, hippie.

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3 points

Ubuntu Touch represent!

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2 points

Also the team got volte and 5g running on the os!

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2 points

Oh shit that’s dope I haven’t been keeping up too much with the project

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32 points

Do android stans exist? Had always thought android was the lesser of two evils for most people

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33 points

its most definitely the lesser, but there are still many people who would suck off Samsung and Google if they had the opportunity to.

trust me I’ve met them

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13 points

Just as some Linux enthusiasts would from Mr. Torvalds.

It’s like with every other fandom: There are haters, normal folks, lovers and the pesky hyper-fan.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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7 points

What if I just like to suck.

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5 points

Foss ftw baby

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3 points

Oh yeah Android has swarms of fanboys.

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I used to be one of those fanboys when I was younger, but that was driven more by the fact that they weren’t iPhones than anything particularly good about Android

Used to be a fan of OnePlus but they’ve become like every other phone company now from what I hear

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29 points

GrapheneOS FTW

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Graphene OS changed my life, seriously. Completely changed my relationship to my phone and made it possible to focus again. Go open source

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What specific features did you notice the most? (I’m assuming switching from Android?) 90% of my phone usage is through a browser, so I could probably install Graphene pretty easily.

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#1 through #69: no push notifications, no feeds on my home screen, nothing I don’t explicitly turn on and configure. No bloat whatsoever, the phone comes practically empty. I got this at the beginning of 2022, before then I kept finding myself reading articles about Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. Like I could not give less of a fuck about them, that story, whatever. I don’t know who she is, and I don’t particularly like JD movies except maybe Dead Man from the 90s, he probably beat the shit out of her idk. But for some reason I kept finding myself reading these articles on my phone absentmindedly. That kind of shit ended immediately.

Downsides? Not everything works, because there’s no google play, and I couldn’t get it even if I wanted it. I can use most google services on the browser, but for maps I have to use Osmand, which works but doesn’t give me the fastest way to a place, and its kind of a trick to find a specific house or business without looking it up on a computer first and locating the nearest cross street. Schools, hospitals it has saved no problem, but not the optimal routes ore even anything relatively close. Great for my city where I can get myself 98% the way there already knowing the fastest ways around. Out of town we usually use my wife’s navigation.

Those drawbacks are a little annoying but I will never go back to android, and I would never use apple in the first place. I love my phone, it feels like its mine in a way no phone ever has.

Hope this helps, ask if you have other questions

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Interesting. Not having a good maps / navigation app might be a bit of a dealbreaker for me, since that’s pretty much the last 10% of what I use my phone for. Degoogling myself there will require some effort…

As for push notifications and feeds, I don’t really have a problem with that on my current phone with base android. I’m pretty aggressive about blocking random notifications or uninstalling apps entirely if they show me push notifications ads or “use me” reminders. And my home screen is just a clock and calendar.

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You can get Google play working by sideloading it with adb, and enabling graphene’s microG service in the apps menu.

Any further apps installed with Google play, and Google itself, will still be under the default restrictions imposed by graphene, instead of having full access like with stock android.

It can be a little clunky starting out, but once you get used to it, the only major downside I could find was that I couldn’t verify my bank details to enable nfc payments, because Google hasn’t whitelisted Graphene in their API for “security reasons”

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Yeah, I can’t imagine what about Graphene would make that big of a difference. Smart phones and slabs of glass with apps on them. There’s very little that truly impacts the experience after you get past specs.

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without software, what is hardware? same vice versa, you need good software and hardware to match for a good user experience.

stock android’s software is extremely shit, bloated, and slow. but I guess that goes for every out of the box os these days ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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The reasons listed are things I can already do. I disable any bloat and white-list notifications.

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