For self-hosting though, the project I work on - Snikket - uses XMPP but has all the nice modern things you’d expect ready to go right out of the box, more like a Matrix (Synapse/Element) setup. Probably the biggest thing missing for Snikket right now is an official web app (we currently have Android and iOS apps).
My personal feeling is that if you’re looking for something a bit more extensive, “team chat” style (such as Discord, Slack, that kind of thing), you’re better served by Element right now. However if you’re looking for something lightweight and simple for personal messaging in a group of family/friends (e.g. to replace WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal) then XMPP via Snikket is a great choice.
- The above is copied from someone else. Anyone have any experience running this for family / friends?
Tested Snikket self-hosting in the past. If I recall correctly one advantage was that it has the option for admins to create invite links for on-boarding new users which seems useful to me for “normies”.
I wonder how does this differ from plain XMPP? There are tons of XMPP clients for every imaginable device, includong browser ones.
Yeah, I get that. But since it’s (basically) XMPP, can’t it be used with such as Converse.js?
It has a very opinionated default configuration and many of the relevant settings are hard-coded in the containers and thus are not easy to change permanently.
It’s probably possible to get working with ConverseJS, but I think it is better to wait for an officially supported web-client to be added to Snikket or alternatively configure your own XMPP server without the ready made Snikket containers.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| HTTP | Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web |
| SSL | Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption |
| VPS | Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting) |
| XMPP | Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (‘Jabber’) for open instant messaging |
4 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 14 acronyms.
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I’ve tried to install it on my VPS behind Traefik but couldn’t get it working. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
XMPP doesn’t use HTTP for the most part, so Traefik isn’t going to work. Just open the right ports in your firewall.
I installed it with a caddy proxy, works like a charm. I’ve used the Converse.js web client, Modal on iOS and Conversations for Android. The installation was quick and easy, file and photo sharing works, audio and video calls.
Really the hardest part is getting friends to use it.
