188 points

Everyone is talking about how taxes work and no one is talking about how this meme works. He doesn’t need glasses anymore! It looks blurry with his glasses!

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29 points

He’s even squinting!

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Fitting considering how cash register donations usually do not work the way it is described in the meme.

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117 points

This is not how tax deductions for charitable donations work.

  1. You round up to the dollar for a 50c donation
  2. The business has 50c extra income
  3. They write off 50c as tax deductible
  4. They pay the exact same taxes whether or not you make a donation
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Sure, but they also get to advertise that they donated X thousands of dollars to charity, while the truth is that the actual donors get no tax benefits at all. And like OP said, I’d rather use https://charitynavigator.org/ to do my own research before giving money to a corporation to donate to some organization that may be mishandling their funds.

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73 points

Yup, it’s not about stealing money it’s about stealing goodwill.

The customers at the grocery store don’t get thanked for donating $50 million to fighting awful childhood diseases, the grocery store does.
Then they can use that to argue they’re good for the community, and deserve massive tax subsidies when they go to open their next store.

Unrelated, I’ve talked with people who work in the corporate philanthropy part of a business, and they’re fine. They’re just happy to get to use their position to organize charity, even though they know the point to the business is goodwill not giving.
It’s other parts of the business that then milk that goodwill in incredibly scummy ways.

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23 points

It’s about stopping centralized programs which would actually address public needs. “We don’t need universal healthcare, here’s a charity that helps people with the bubonic plague!”

And in the worst cases, it’s a grift for the wealthy. Where the charities exist to do scammy things like pay the founder to fly to luxury resorts to give a talk about why poverty is bad. Or to fund your family members solar manufacturing company. Or to put fuel into your church’s private jet so you don’t run the risk of catching demons from the public.

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Then they can use that to argue they’re good for the community, and deserve massive tax subsidies when they go to open their next store.

So there is tax benefits, just with extra steps?

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21 points

The person who paid the round up donation (i.e. you) is the person allowed to use the donation for their tax benefit. If you save receipts with round up donations, you can deduct them on your taxes, but no one does that.

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It’s difficult for individuals to get deductions for charitable contributions under current tax code. You’ve got to pretty much donate upwards of twenty thousand dollars before any benefits.

That stated number is different for every situation and is a rough estimate of average of what I see on returns.

If Trump tax sunsets in 2025, things will revert back to more easily getting benefits from donations, but that’s a long way away and entirely reliant on who’s running the show at that time.

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That’s not how it works either. You’re the one naking a donation, you get a receipt for your 50 cent donation that YOU can claim on your taxes.

The business getting you to make a donation doesn’t get to claim your donation.

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Both you and the business can claim that as a tax deduction.

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16 points

They absolutely cannot.

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0 points

this is misinformation. you are saying lies.

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11 points

This is a pretty good example of your typical misinformation karma whore clickbait ragebait bullshit post. Glad to see these make their way over from Reddit to Lemmy. Rip.

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Another poster mentioned that they can use this to ask for subsidies. Some might not consider tax benefits, but imo it’s tax benefits with extra steps.

And you don’t even need to think of that, a for profit business only does what it benefits it. So if they ask, it’s mainly for their benefit, not mainly for sake of charity.

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I agree that corporations are inherently evil. But misinformation is also evil. Both are bad. We should all strive to explain things accurately. That being said, this is a meme channel so we’re all looking too much into this. Gotta lay back and let the memes flow. Thanks for listening to my Ted talk.

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10 points

It’s not how Spider-Man works either.

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  1. They show boat about how much they do for charity
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  1. They lobby against government aid programs and increased taxes because “look, see, we are help the poors, no need for the government to get involved!”
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  1. The charity is operated by the company, and pays fat stacks to the CEO for operating it.
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#2 and 3 don’t actually happen since it can’t be recorded on the P&L.

The donation would get recorded to cash and offset to a liability account, probably something named Charitable Donations Payable likely with a subaccount for the specific programs.

Overall, the effect is essentially the same, though. Fwiw, I like to use the same comparison as you did to show to people how dumb this belief is.

The individual who donated at the register also is allowed to claim the donation when they file their taxes.

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That’s not how tax filing works. Your #2 is completely wrong that’s not considered income.

Are you retarded?

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2 points

Confidently incorrect.

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common misinformation, fact check here

Donations made by customers at checkout are not tax-deductible for the business, as the donation does not come from the company. According to TPC, the business only serves as a collector for charitable donations from its customers and has no right to claim any of the collected funds.

If you got this far in the comment, take a mental note to call this out the next time you see it. I too am very critical of the late stage capitalist hellscape we live in, but rounding up for charity is a rare instance of an unproblematic practice that is damaging to discourage as this post does. Charities do a lot of good and when you donate to them you are the one that gets the opportunity to do a writeoff.

Edit: If you are wondering why they do it then, it’s a psychological marketing technique. If you come to associate the good things that the Ronald McDonald House does with your McBurger, you are more likely to buy more tasty McBurgers. Sketchy? Sure, but it happens to be really effective at supporting charity work so it’s kind of a mutually beneficial arrangement.

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I’m just instinctively averse to corporate bullshit because corporations don’t do anything unless it serves them in some way.

Why do I have to round up to a dollar? I just dropped 159$ shopping at your store, you round up and give some of your profits to charity, don’t guilt trip me with this nonsense as you rape me with fake sales and shrinkflation.

I’ll donate to charities that I want and I’ll give more than a miesely dollar.

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20 points

i totally get that, and your instincts are noble, which is probably why this misconception is so pervasive. i too was in your position once, but yeah, no harm is done by donating at checkout.

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I disagree. Charities should not have to exist if the government was responsible and funded services in the public interest. Charities have to spend a non-trivial amount of money on fundraising itself and sustaining their own management. Hunger, medical research, veteran care, homelessness. All these things could be alleviated through government funding.

Are Nonprofits Getting in the Way of Social Change?

The Revolution Will Not Be Funded: Beyond the Non-Profit Industrial Complex

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30 points

Your meme is the wrong way around.

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25 points

That’s not really how taxes work.

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