241 points

It enticed me to start gaming on Linux. So its definitely doing some enticing

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43 points

I thought I was alone in this lol

Win11 literally made me rage uninstall it after I got mad trying to remove all bloatware and then it showed me onedrive ad

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19 points

What was your experience switching over to Linux and getting it set up for gaming?

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37 points

If you primarily game using Steam then it’s easier than ever on most popular distros. Biggest hassle is likely still GPU drivers. I’ve never had any issues there but depending on what card you have you may be better off with either proprietary or FOSS drivers depending on what your distro of choice likes to provide by default. After that most games tend to just work, a handful may require you to pick a beta version of proton or something.

If you want to try it and don’t want to do a lot of tinkering check out PopOS. It’s probably the friendliest distro for gaming out of the box.

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23 points

Driver installation is really only a hassle for NVIDIA users. AMD and Intel GPUs simply work out of the box on most Linux distros these days (with the main issues being related to using slow moving distros that lack support for the newest hardware). Use a fast moving distro such as Arch and you likely won’t have any issues even with recent GPUs. Hopefully NVK will make the situation for NVIDIA cards better too, been testing it on my laptop and it’s starting to be viable for gaming.

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9 points

I’ve heard a lot of people reference PopOS and Garuda as of the last few months but I’ve never heard of them. When you say popular distros I immediately think Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Suse, etc. Does your comment include those as well or when you say popular do you mean “popular for gaming”? Also how is the Linux support for external controllers?

To be fair outside of Proxmox and some Debian containers with Docker I haven’t spent much time in the Linux space for the last 7 or 8 years. I’m thinking about finally making the switch.

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14 points

The main setup went smooth. I can recommend nobara which is what I used. I tried garuda as well, but it wasn’t my style. Personal preference, no hate :).

Most steam games work pretty good ( see protondb ). ( make sure to set your steam settings > compatibility to all games ).

Any game with invasive anti-cheat will likely not work. LoL and valorant come to mind. I think some of the cs2 ones like faceit won’t work on Linux. But standard cs2 and competitive work fine.

Battle.net gave me some issues on lutris until I forced it to proton.

Overall I’ve had a good experience. Sometimes a weird issue if I alt tab ( hots ) that it comes back super tiny. I worked around it by running it windowed fullscreen.

Overall I’ve no regrets so far. I installed nobara and it’s quite user friendly. I’ve never used a fedora distro before ( more extensive experience with xubuntu/Ubuntu/pop ).

Helldivers 2, heroes of the storm and ff crisis core worked flawlessly.

Hots needs to run full screen ( windowed ) or alt-tab will make the screen tiny for some reason.

So far: no regrets.

When you first play a game it needs to compile the shaders first. So on your initial game there’s a few minutes ramp up time. But any next times you start the game should be fine.

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5 points

Thank you for mentioning hots, because that’s like the ONE steam game I couldn’t live without. Good to know it’s possible, even if I have to play true full screen vs windowed.

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3 points

I have an older GPU (rx 470) and I play games that probably aren’t super new so my main concerns were mainly my tech literacy and fear of fucking something up xD

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2 points

I tried Garuda as well, and was not happy with the hoops I had to go through. I switched to Pop OS, and have had very smooth sailing so far.

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4 points

I switched over from Win10 to PopOS! about a month ago. It hasn’t been 100% painless but it’s leaps and bounds better than the last time I tried to switch 5-10 years ago. For reference I’m in an AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU, NVME drives for both the system and game drives, SATA for a data drive, NAS for media. I’ve only reinstalled once because I broke everything tinkering with different desktop environments, but it was an easy recovery with the install media.

All the correct drivers were installed from the get go. I managed to overwrite my cloud save for Horizon Forbidden West because of an issue mounting my game drive and mapping the correct install location in Steam, but that was 90% on me because I rejected the idea of making a backup copy of the files because “I know what I’m doing”. I ended up wiping my game drive entirely and reformatting it as EXT4 and haven’t had any problems since - the drive was NTFS before and had a handful of games already installed from Windows.

A couple games require finding the right Proton version to run it, but GE works flawlessly for most things I’ve tried. Everything has run as fast or faster than in Windows with the exception of WH4K: Darktide. There’s some microsecond delay in there somewhere that I couldn’t pin down. Didn’t seem to be video or network related. It’s the kind of thing that I bet I wouldn’t notice if it were my first time playing the game, but since I’ve got a couple hundred hours in it, it is just enough to throw me off and make me feel slightly drunk.

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Not the original poster, but my experience was fairly smooth. I had minor issues with wifi drivers, and I got a new GPU that had some driver issues because it was pretty recently released (I guess the open source drivers didn’t have time to be updated?). In terms of actual gaming, basically no issues. I mainly use steam and proton has been bliss, I’ve bought multiple games without even checking compatibility, and it just works. To my knowledge there is only one old game where the multiplayer doesn’t work, but everything else has been seamless. Mint cinnamon is what I’m currently running.

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2 points

Base Ubuntu with the non snap version of steam has been great. I only play a few games, helldivers, some rouglites, and apex. The thing I miss with windows is HDR and auto HDR. HDR will be added in plasma 6 but I had issues with it on KDE Neon but once it’s on a stable build it will be good.

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2 points

I’ve started doing non-gaming on my steam deck. Not a lot but its let me use Linux in a very basic way.

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148 points

My win10 upgraded without asking. Win11 is horrible, I’m going to wipe and reinstall win10 again. As soon as update support stops, it’s Linux for me. Screw Microsoft. They even added ads as notifications and they are going to put ads in the start menu. Wtf! This is the end of windows, I’m sure.

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75 points

during the great Mastodon migration in 2022 I saw someone post how they head to unlearn scrolling past every 6th post or so on their timeline, because that’s how the Twitter app was displaying the ads. I wish Microsoft the Very Bad and daydream about year of the Linux desktop, but something’s telling me people will get used to ads on Windows the same way.

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40 points

You’re definitely right. Facebook got super shitty and most people didn’t leave. Netflix got super shitty and most people didn’t leave. YouTube got super shitty and most people didn’t leave. Amazon’s shitty video service got even more shitty, but Fallout was about to come out, so most people didn’t leave and I bet they actually got more subscribers (but idc enough to look it up). It seems like most people have accepted that things just get shitty over time. Or maybe they’re just not noticing the shitty changes? Idk. It’s hard to look at our projected trajectory as a species and be left with much hope. There’s good in this world, but it seems like none of it is coming from companies.

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16 points

On one hand I agree that most people probably won’t change. On the other, the difference between an OS and websites is that windows has very little exclusivity left. If you want to read Facebook content, you go on Facebook. If you want to watch fallout, you go on prime. If you want to watch long-form content (relative to TikTok), you go to youtube.

If you want a good OS, you’re not forced by Microsoft to exclusively use windows. There are some pockets (like Xbox game pass games) but overall the average user could realistically switch to debian, Ubuntu or mint and not actually materially change what they do and watch on their computer, whereas if you decided to stop using Netflix, yes the experience of watching would be better but you wouldn’t actually be experiencing the same content.

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3 points

I didn’t leave Facebook, I just stopped using it. You can see their monthly active users are not going up, and sometimes going down. Only Instagram is growing

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12 points

I had the same experience when switching from the reddit app to Boost. When Boost stopped working for reddit, I couldn’t stand it so it was bye bye reddit my entire pc connection is ad free. There’s a filter in my router, strong filter in my vpn and I have blockers. I do not watch streaming services, I download everything through usenet with an automated system on my NAS. I have no TV. I order groceries online, I never enter a store. My phone has filters too. I live completely ad free. But then Microsoft comes, and says “fuck you, here’s an ad!” on MY machine. Without consent. I was boiling.

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I’m testing out Tiny11, which is basically Windows 11 without the bloat, and so far the experience is great!

My secondhand laptop from 2019 went from taking two minutes or more each to boot and to shut down in the full Microsoft monstrosity to less than 10 seconds for either in Tiny11 and the general performance is also dramatically improved!

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26 points

(I’m speaking generally, not criticizing you personally.)

It’s amazing the great effort to which people will go to try to compensate for Microsoft’s abusive behavior, often while simultaneously claiming that switching OSs is too much effort.

Projects like Tiny11 are the computer equivalent of “oh, this black eye? I got it falling down the stairs and definitely not because my partner hit me.”

Folks get mad about Linux evangelism, but it’s really no different than friends saying “leave his ass; you’re too good for him!”

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10 points

To be fair, alternatives like Tiny11 are much more user friendly for someone used to Windows than going all the way to Linux.

Especially if gaming is a big part of what you use your computer for and you prefer to do as much as possible with just the mouse rather than typing in various complex commands, both of which is the case with me.

Windows 11 is too bloated and otherwise enshittified and making Linux do what I want it to is too much of a hassle.

Tiny11 is better for my personal use case on both accounts and, like with Linux, I’m not rewarding Microsoft’s sleazy behavior by using it.

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1 point

Sounds good, I’ll go check it out :)

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4 points

I’m using StartAllBack and have found it to be a rather nice experience.

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7 points

Yeah but that’s only UI issues. It also runs much slower then win10. There are massive performance issues. Next to that I have less rights to do stuff. Few days ago I wasn’t allowed to forget Bluetooth devices for example. Even in control panel bt settings. After XP it all went downhill with accessibility of settings. Fancy setting pages with restricted options. Why, what’s wrong with control panel? I know it’s still there, and we still have WIN+X but it’s getting placed behind more sub menus and restrictions and more and more is being removed to make it idiot proof. But it’s also locking me out. I want full control over my machine. No one tells me what I can and cannot access on my device. Fuck Microsoft.

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I made all my accounts local only and I haven’t noticed these issues. I do still use control panel and the old user manager by default, so maybe that’s why?

I also used a special installer which allows for local only accounts out of the box and does some other changes. Maybe that’s why I’m having a better experience. This is the guide I followed. Follow the guide for Rufus.

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1 point

My win10 upgraded without asking

Oh snap, so the only thing that stopped mine was because it was not compatible?

Wtf Microsoft!!!

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108 points

I’m so glad I’m stuck with a “your hardware doesn’t support windows 11” message.

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27 points

Just disable TPM in your BIOS if you have that option. Win 11 needs modern TPM so it won’t upgrade you if you don’t have one.

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25 points

“Needs” lol

It’s just in there to sell more hardware. Afaik, 11 does nothing that actually requires the newer tpm.

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15 points

Yeah people who really wanted 11 back in the beginning found an easy process to bypass the check during the install. 11 works fine without it.

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22 points

I disabled my TPM in BIOS so Windows would never upgrade

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10 points

I think this is a pretty big deal and they are shooting themselves in the foot with these unnecessary restrictions.

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90 points

Windows 11 was what finally forced me over to linux for good, no more dual booting. I know it sounds strange, but the straw that broke its back was the taskbar. I have an ultrawide monitor, so I ALWAYS have the taskbar vertical on a side. It makes zero sense to have it at the bottom. Massive waste of space. Windows 11 DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE THE TASKBAR. I was flabbergasted. This is a feature that has existed for decades in every OS. I just couldn’t comprehend the stupidity, so I just didn’t. Formatted the drive and went to Arch, then to Tumbleweed. Couldn’t be happier.

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23 points

I ran a poll a few years ago on Reddit asking people what event made them switch to Linux from some other platform. Interestingly enough it was not the EOL of a preferred version of Windows or MacOS, but the introduction of a dreaded new one. In other words, according to my poll, more people quit using Windows not because Win 7 support ended, but because Win 8 was released. Which was counterintuitive to me.

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4 points

It feels to me like every second version of Windoof is shit if you start at XP (my first Windoof OS, no experience with earlier ones):

  • XP guhd
  • Vista shite
  • 7 guhd
  • 8 shite
  • 10 guhd
  • 11 shite

Until now I was able to skip every second version and could wait until the newer and better one was released. But now it seems that I need to make a complete switch to a suitable gaming Linux OS. I don’t have any other use for Windoof.

Your poll results feel therefore relatable to me. I want a system that just works and with which I can do everything I need to. I don’t mind testing new features. Often I welcome them. But if I can already expect that I have to adjust to new features which are unavoidable, and from which I can tell – either by reading reviews or testing myself – that I really don’t like them, then of course I stay with the system which doesn’t have them as long as I can still do everything I need to.

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2 points

Well, it’s been shown with previous releases and this one that Windows gets really pushy about upgrading long before EoL for the previous OS, so I can understand the frustration. Especially annoying if you’re running something like a kiosk or a TV app that doesn’t have mouse/keyboard readily available.

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15 points

I have an ultrawide monitor, so I ALWAYS have the taskbar vertical on a side. It makes zero sense to have it at the bottom.

I’ve been wondering this for YEARS. Why the fuck are we wasting SO MANY PIXELS on the long side? I’m not opening more apps… They started stacking windows under one “app” icon… So I’m using even LESS space. I don’t need to waste 75x3440 (5% of the monitor space) pixels on this shit. I’d rather waste 75x1440(2%). Because everything I do fits in that space fine.

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13 points

I downloaded a third party app that re enables the windows 10 taskbar and lets you put it on the side. It’s called ExplorerPatcher. Cannot believe you can’t dock the win 11 taskbar on the side…what a choice…

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4 points

SAME! I like to have my taskbar at the top of the screen, and seeing that Microsoft had absolutely no intention of allowing it because of their oh so special start menu sent me over the edge. Been full time on Linux Mint for about a year now and I’m loving it. Proton and Lutris have made it surprisingly viable for gaming, to the point where I can runmost games without any troubleshooting.

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3 points

This and the worse right-click menu make me dread the day I have to switch at work :/

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74 points

Microsoft needs to re-evaluate the support window, because nobody’s buying Windows 11. They fucked themselves with the high hardware requirements.

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64 points

And an incomplete product; windows 11 was less functional at launch than windows 10. I’ve been a windows user since 98 and that’s the first time I can remember having said that. Sure, there were off editions that were weird and unpleasant, but I wouldn’t say less functional. Windows 11 just flat out was an incomplete product at launch.

And the live service dependencies: windows 11 pooping its diaper and having a fit about every other thing because it doesn’t have an Internet connection even though an Internet connection isn’t strictly necessary is a terrible UX choice. Anyone with half a brain knows it’s because MS has decided that if you won’t let them slurp that tasty, tasty data, then you shouldn’t be able to use the product you paid for.

And the plans to stuff ads into your operating system

And them basically doing the same shit that landed them huge anti-trust lawsuits in the 90s, but we’re doing it again because they figure they can make more money than the lawsuit will cost them, so fuck it.

There’s a lot to not like here.

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Sure, there were off editions that were weird and unpleasant

You could just say ME.

But I’m curious, have the issues you’ve described made you consider leaving Windows?

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5 points

Oh, I did. I ended up installing Linux mint and used it on my personal machine for about six months before re-installing windows. I would still be using Linux, I liked it a lot, but I found I had a lot of trouble getting multiplayer to work between my daughter and I. Gaming is 98% of the way there, but that 2% is really annoying and it’s most of what I use my personal machine for. I’m sure I could have figured it out if I’d had a solid 12-36 hours to fine tune configs and Google hyper specific issues, but I just don’t have that. I’m confident I will return to Linux in time, but Windows still has the edge in terms of out-of-the-box gaming, sadly.

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2 points

There’s a lot to not like here.

the new snipping-tool is neat

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13 points

They don’t have to make people buy it. They just have to stop supporting 10 and have no new machines with 10 pre installed. It will naturally invade our lives.

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10 points

Right now we’re releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10.

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7 points

That was an effort to get people to buy new machines. I loaded it on my gen 7 i7 and my gen 8. Both run it just fine but microsoft insists that one is good and one is bad. Its all about new sales.

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I dunno if it’s the hardware requirements. The ads are the thing I don’t want. Not sure I see the point of moving the start menu either.

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