I had met this lady a few weeks ago who did numerology sessions on the side of her regular job. She had offered me a session at the time and I had refused. I ended up finding her number a few weeks later and had arranged to book a session.

I had been seeing all these numbers repeating, and thought, why not have some fun, right? I donโ€™t really believe in that kinda stuff, but it would be interesting to see what values people ascribe to things as random as numbers, and see what I think about it. An hour session was gonna come out to upwards of 200+ dollars ๐Ÿ’€ .

I apologised saying I shouldโ€™ve asked for a quote beforehand, but she tries to call me (I didnโ€™t pick up) and she then texts me that โ€œpeople usually call me when theyโ€™re in need and I recommend the sessionโ€, but itโ€™s likeโ€ฆof course you would, youโ€™re making 200+ dollars off of me lol.

No disrespect to her, but I hate that everyday interactions are warped by profit ๐Ÿ˜“. I get everyone has to eat, but damn, wtf?

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Well, numerology is a scam as a whole, so that makes sense.

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Itโ€™s literally just a charlatan scam, like homeopathy, tarot card readings, psychics and mediums, etc. The people who perform that are some of the lowest of the low: they admit that people who come to them are at a bad point in their life and very in need of help, and they prey on that because itโ€™s an opportunity for quick money. Vulnerable people who donโ€™t question your bullshit, thatโ€™s an easy mark.

(Edit: tarot, not taro)

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Lesson definitely learned. Thereโ€™s always people looking for fools to finesse. I wouldnโ€™t have minded if it was like 30 a session, but 200+ is disrespectful. I think I intentionally rejected the offer because I also wanted to see how she would react. I figured if she left it alone, then she was probably someone a lot of people had reached out to before. Lo and behold, she tries to call me back within a few minutes to try and finesse me lol.

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taro is a root vegetable, youโ€™re thinking about tarot cards.

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The vegetable is also a scam. Edible plates? Get outta here!

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Thatโ€™s funny. I literally searched because I couldnโ€™t remember which was the root vegetable and which was the card thing. And somehow I still got it wrong.

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lol thatโ€™s hilarious :P

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I completely agree, these grifters target the most exploited sectors of the population that are gullible enough to believe in this sort of stuff.

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Tarot apparently has actually benefit as a tool for self-introspection, and has a decent community of people who believe in it without wanting any profit from it, but i imagine the industry as a whole is garbage

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The spirits are not cheap ๐Ÿ˜…

Even as a web designer I didnโ€™t charge that much per hour

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I think everyone here agrees numerology is a scam with zero scientific evidence.

What does lemmygradians think of traditional Chinese medicine?

The scientific reasoning behind specifically acupuncture and cupping sound 100% like bullshit to me, but anecdotally it works for relieving chronic pain for my partner. Go figure.

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Iโ€™m sure thereโ€™s a lot of traditional medicine that works, but the superstitious explanations are annoying. Just tell me the science behind it.

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Traditional medicine, Chinese or otherwise, is bullshit. If some tincture happens to have some active ingredient that actual does something, then that ingredient has almost certainly been studied by actual scientists, purified, dosed, and available as a safe (relatively) form at your local pharmacy.

Acupuncture and cupping in particular are no better than placebo at relieving pain. Any temporary relief your partner receives from them is no better than a sugar pill that they are convinced will help them, or no better than the pain relief of a massage. What does everyone do when they bang their knee or elbow on something hard? We rub it. Why? Because rubbing stimulates the surrounding nerves and that extra stimulation helps to drown out and dull the sharp painโ€ฆtemporarily. Any pain relief from acupuncture and cupping is no different and isnโ€™t permanent. Your partner would be better off going to a licensed physical therapist, with an actual doctorate degree and deep understanding of anatomy. They will not only know techniques to temporarily relieve the pain, but also will be able to provide a custom exercise plan to strengthen the affected area to help prevent repeat injury.

Also a lot of non-scientific โ€œmedicine๏ฟผโ€ is extremely dangerous. I know people have had serious injuries from acupuncture, but chiropractors are the worse. Donโ€™t let anyone you care about go to a chiropractor. At best you become a repeat customer and waste a lot of money on a glorified massage from someone pretending to be a doctor, and at worst you end up a paraplegic or dead.

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Donโ€™t let anyone you care about go to a chiropractor.

Some of the stuff Iโ€™ve seen on YouTube and tiktok is horrific.

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Interestingly enough, their physiotherapist has incorporated acupuncture techniques into the practice.

You see. Patients with chronic pain will try everything. Sometimes at the same time. Scientific, traditional, experimentalโ€ฆ They are โ€œhappyโ€ to be test subjects, because pain is just too depressing. And after common medicine fails for enough years, maybe the tradeoff of becoming a test subject and discussing the issue with more peers is worth it.

Donโ€™t get me wrong, I agree with everything you said, Iโ€™m just exposing another perspective on the theme.

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Donโ€™t let anyone you care about go to a chiropractor

I know thereโ€™s some quackers, but arenโ€™t there some legit ones who donโ€™t do cracking stuff that donโ€™t claim to be able to fix everything?

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There may be some chiropractors that know it is a sham and therefore donโ€™t do some of the more dangerous maneuvers out of fear of hurting someone and getting sued. But Iโ€™m not taking those risks and the entire practice is pseudoscience nonsense.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/13/georgia-woman-paralyzed-after-routine-chiropractor-visit/

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If traditional/alternative medicine worked, it would just be called medicine.

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Dumb take. Mainstream medicine is still warped by the conditions of the society in which it is developed and practiced. In America, that means politicized/racist drug policy results in prohibition of actually useful drugs while creating a massive legally prescribed opiod addiction epidemic. That doesnโ€™t mean itโ€™s all bad, but thereโ€™s certainly a lot of ways in which โ€œalternativeโ€ medicine works better than mainstream medicine.

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traditional chinese medicine is complicated. Thereโ€™s a lot of good stuff, and plenty of famous doctors came from ancient China. This does not mean, however, that you should take random herbs.

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I want to change my previous comment, you should have quoted a lower random price and when she disagreed say โ€œthe numbers donโ€™t agree with your price, mine makes more senseโ€

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Twas revealed to me in a dream ๐Ÿ’†๐Ÿ”ฎ

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