I can only see this going into a very dystopian path. Based on their actions, I don’t trust these companies, their security practices, nor their privacy policies. Why would I give them my biometrics? And my full palm, at that!? Hell no!
Forget about privacy, this is just fucking dumb
One point of failure that can’t be replaced if stolen?
This won’t ever take off, and will most definitely die out quickly in favor of literally any other technique including just embedding an nfc chip and battery to your palm surgically. Which I probably still wouldn’t be thrilled about but
Who needs an NFC chip when you can just place a nail shaped NFC sticker on them and gel paint over them? We don’t need implantables; those could get copied anyways and cause the need for unnecessary surgeries to replace them as well.
Buy the tags; apply them to your nails and paint them any color you want; pair them to your phone and use appropriate username + password + 2FA + Fingerprint combos to authenticate to your financial institution.
Lost a nail? No big deal. The tags don’t carry financial data; they just provide a URI to the merchant; which can ping your phone/smartwatch and ensure that you are:
- Present at the location.
- Not too far away from pay terminal.
- Have not signaled to your devices you are under duress. (Spoken keyword and/or excessively stressed biosigns)
- Have not blocked spending by tap.
I’ve see where you can pay with your fingerprint at some venders. It’s a similar concept, in terms of single point of failure. Regardless, I hope you’re right.
E: **mostly right. I won’t embed anything in my skin for payments. CC or cash or phone NFC (and I don’t like that one for it’s security implications). That’s it.
I won’t even use phone NFC for payments. Card, cash, or I’m taking my business elsewhere.
This makes me irrationally angry. I feel like if I saw that shit in real life I would have to put in effort not to smash it.
If you don’t like it, don’t use it. It’s extremely presumptuous to assume your extent views on this matter is the only right view to the point you think it’s ok to enforce that view on everyone else.
It’s just part of the creeping evil of surveillance. Fuck giant corporations. They shouldn’t be allowed to basically fingerprint their customers and put it in a database.
Why is surveillance inherently evil? Secondly if other people don’t care about this, who are you to deny them what they consider a convenience and don’t have a problem with? What gives you a right to impose your beliefs on others?
How do you open your phone? Finger print?
The fingerprint in the phone is stored and verified locally, no way this is the case here.
I don’t get the issue with it ? Why wouldn’t fingerprint be the best way to pay for stuff ?
For the same reason this isn’t a good idea. Privacy aside, when your biometrics get leaked (and they will), you’ll have no recourse, because biometrics are literally a part of your body and you can’t change them.
How do biometrics get leaked ? Can they 3d print my finger ? What difference does it make to all my dsta getting sold on the daily ? I don’t see how it changes things
They don’t need to 3D print anything, only to “side load” the hash (it’s more complex than that, but that’s the gist). If your ID is tied to your finances, and it gets leaked, you can’t change your ID. Your finger/palmprint is always your finger/palmprint.
The #MythBusters know why this is not a good idea.
bro, come back to me when most stores accept touch emv payments. lol, like each fucking store is gonna know what to do with a fucking palm scan when emv is fucking forbidden magic.
Haha! Good point. It’s been “mandated” a couple years ago, right? It’s barely anywhere
Interesting regional differences. It’s incredibly rare that I find a store that doesn’t support tap-to-pay
