213 points

Streaming went to shit when everyone made their own. It was good and worth the money when it was one portal with everything available.

Now i am back navigating the stormy high seas, to avoid the treacherous shores of bankruptcy

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121 points

And the funny thing is, rather than competition driving down prices, they only seem to be competing for who can charge the most while showing more ads.

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28 points

They’re not truly competing because they make every show they can exclusive to their platform

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12 points

Fair point, honestly. It’s more like a group of mini-monopolies than any kind of actual competitive space.

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4 points

Yep, there can be no competition with exclusive access

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24 points

Streaming infrastructure is expensive, and all these smaller networks that decided to spin up their own didn’t seem to realise that. Prices go up, ad tiers get added because none of them are actually making any money. It’s just quarter after quarter of loss even with substantial revenue due to the fact that producing content, hosting and then scaling globally to make it available to a wide variety of geographic locations just isn’t cost effective. Even Amazon, the lord of cloud compute itself, hasn’t been able to maintain this.

So in this case, competition limits the only way they make money: people subscribing. Greedy bastards.

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17 points

The fucked thing is that it wouldn’t be such a huge deal but they all want to make money on the current number of customers instead of their potential. People are poorer and poorer and have to choose maybe one or two services at a time at the prices they are.

They would rather get one customer for $15/mo than 4 or 5 customers for $5/mo. And they together created an environment where it’s hard for any one of them to make the first move. Healthy competition only really works when people act in good faith and none of these people are capable of that even when it benefits them.

Business people are truly dumbest creatures on this planet. “What if we make them poor and then charge them a bunch of money? That makes sense, right? And if they get upset we tell them it’s their fault.”

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0 points

A lot of the infrastructure is provided to ISP’s free for local caching/deployment. Netflix has the Open Connect program to greatly relieve stress on interconnects and backbones.

If memory serves, ISP didn’t like this and would rather profit from fees for the internet traffic. I feel like those fees and licensing fees account for a significant increase in subscription costs.

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50 points

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Yeah, this definitely was not a case of “competition makes everything better.” More a case of every greedy motherfucker wanting to have their own private walled fiefdom making everything worse. Who’s going to be the first to bring up the GabeN quote?

I’m with you, I am proud to say I subscribe to precisely zero streaming services. There’s very little on any of them I actually want anyway, and anything I might actually want to see is readily available… elsewhere.

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36 points

Studios shouldn’t be allowed to own the channels. It’s a problem similar to when studios owned the movie theaters.

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9 points

If only https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Paramount_Pictures,_Inc. was expanded to streaming services instead of repealed.

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24 points

Yep, and everyone having their own exclusives. I’m neither paying hundreds of bucks for a gazillion streaming services per month, nor am I juggling subscriptions between them like some sort of puzzle game.

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6 points

Hold on. The fact that it became worse doesn’t mean that the monopoly was a good thing. Remember that those companies start new businesses usually at loss amd giving a lot to the users, just to grow their market share, but then will slowly take everything back, and more, with time.

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10 points

Well, yeah, that’s why we’re here. Streaming went to shit

While I agree that the monopoly netflix once had doesn’t belong in private hands, a public funded central media archive where all studios release their content would be preferable.

But still, for the user those were golden times. Whatever you wanted to watch, chances were Netflix had it in good quality and any language you wanted on any device with internet.

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6 points

Multiple streaming services existing isn’t the issue - content exclusivity to certain platforms makes it so. If content was on all platforms then it would just be a choice based on price and service features.

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5 points

Not only that, but all of their interfaces are trash. These services should model there UI off of Plex.

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4 points

And all the different interfaces that lack basic functionality… and proper filters.

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3 points

2015 - 2018 was great. I barely pirated anything. Netlifx, Hulu, HBO. Those three covered virtually all my viewing desires.

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2 points

When was it ever just one portal with everything available?

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11 points

Early Netflix was pretty close.

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6 points

I live in the Uk. We used to have a DNS workaround to give us access to the US Netflix. It had everything we wanted. I stopped torrenting and was happy to just stream box sets & movies.

Roll on 10 years I now have a server with Hetzner that is my own personal Netflix of the high seas. Now rather than giving Netflix / Disney / discovery / Amazon etc a piece of my £35 a month I can curate exactly the shows and movies I want.

They brought this on themselves and I have zero regret.

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1 point

Bluray!

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139 points

Getting out of hand? They’ve been out of hand for a while.

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4 points

Yeah, but they still were below what the market would bear price wise. Until the very last price increases, if you counted up all of the biggest service fees, it was still lower than the average cable bill like almost a decade before.

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4 points

Came here to say this.

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2 points

You also do not have to get every one, but yes they have been getting greedy

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82 points

I have nothing to contribute to this conversation. Just wanted to say that was a horribly written article.

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42 points

It’s llm regurgitated garbage. Welcome to the new and worse internet.

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All that I see being “new” with LLM regurgitated garbage is that they call the system doing it an AI and not just a spam bot. Even back in the day, randomly entering words and adding “.com” to the end would result in either: a legitimate website, a porn site, a 404 error, or a page filled with random text like an AI generated article that wasn’t hard to determine was made by a computer and not a real human either there to popup when searching literally any words and trying to generate traffic for ads, or as a placeholder for the domain name.

Now that it’s harder to tell it’s randomly generated vs human generated, even the “legitimate” websites are using it.

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3 points

Time to go back to just reading books (those written pre llms)

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4 points

You’re not kidding. 2nd paragraph in I stopped. 3rd graders can write better than this.

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77 points

I switched away from piracy to streaming because they offered a legitimately good value proposition that benefited both the consumer and the producer.

Currently switching back to piracy because these greedy fucks just don’t know when to stop.

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25 points

It’s cable with extra steps.

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2 points

To be fair, everything is on-demand now, but it doesn’t change their greediness.

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