• Star Wars Disney Plus shows should move away from Jedi-centric stories and explore other aspects of the Star Wars universe
  • Andor is a successful example of a Star Wars show without Jedi, focusing on the Empire’s control and morally gray characters
  • Suggestions for new Star Wars show ideas include Pod Racing, Jawa Storage Wars, and One Man and His Droid, among others
55 points

You mean like The Mandalorian? 🤔

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46 points

Also Boba Fett which, sadly, proves that focusing away from the Jedi stories doesn’t guarantee a good story.

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48 points

What Disney should do is focus away from the ~100 years that take place during the Skywalker saga. Theyre coming out with an old republic show, finally, after owning the property for over 10 years now. Its a big ass galaxy, fill it with something.

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24 points

But of course, obligatory Tatooine plot

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4 points

Of course. Everything important that ever happened has to involve a far-off backwater that nobody’s even heard of.

(I actually like Tatooine’s inclusion in KOTOR purely because it makes the planet an even more transparent Dune ripoff)

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10 points

Old republic isnt less sith and jedi, its many many more.

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3 points

Nah, it’s the High Republic era, aka Disney fanfic because they can’t figure what to do next with their nostalogy sequel era.

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2 points

I’ve been saying this forever, the games and expanded universe figured this out decades ago. It let’s you do whatever you want because you don’t have to deal with accidentally retconning something or making sure it fits the existing timeline.

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As a longtime (read: older) Star Wars fan, I feel like completely eschewing Jedi is a mistake. What I’d love to see is more exploration of the world from the perspective of people who aren’t Jedi and aren’t directly involved in the mystic struggle, but are present to bear witness to what happens when literal gods play politics around them.

The Jedi should always be a central theme to Star Wars. They’re what make the universe what it is. Without them, it’s just another space opera, and sci fi needs its MacGuffin. But it would be super interesting to see stories told from outside of that central narrative, reacting to, interacting with, and otherwise existing around the Jedi.

I know this has been explored to some extent with Mandalorian and Andor, but the latter - while a great show - still felt like it would be improved with more direct involvement of the central theme of the universe.

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IMO talking about Jedi, Sith and the Force too much dilutes their importance.

They’re indeed central to the story, but they’re also extremely rare, to a point where most people in the Star Wars universe believe the Jedi are a myth which may not even be real. Seeing a Jedi in action would be like seeing the Messiah in the flesh.

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10 points

That’s in large part due to the machinations of the Emperor, though. They were a para-military policing force throughout the galaxy before the fall of the Republic. Those planets who don’t get a lot of interaction with the Republic (like Tatooine) are probably going to have less direct interaction… but they’ll still have some familiarity with the overall concept that doesn’t lean heavily into grandiose myth.

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36 points

Disney needs to re-learn the concept of the Disney Vault, and use it.

I don’t want any more star wars this decade, thanks. Games, books, sure. But TV and film absolutely not.

Take a break, let the audience build nostalgia and long for it, and sweet Jesus have a fucking plan next time.

Nope, they’re doing a trilogy of Rey movies.

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19 points

Nope, they’re doing a trilogy of Rey movies.

They’re doing fucking what?

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7 points

https://nerdist.com/article/three-new-star-wars-movies-announced-including-daisy-ridley-return-as-rey/

I only see one Rey movie in here, but Mandalorian and Grogu is going to be horrible, calling it now.

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10 points

The Mandalorian and Grogu

Can’t quite believe that’s a real movie name and not a joke.

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5 points

I mean Mandalorian already jumped the shark with season 3 anyway.

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34 points
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Let me go against the grain here: I see a lot of people saying “we need a show like this, we need more of that”, but we don’t really need more Star Wars. We need good Star Wars, not more Star Wars.

Most people want the occasional movie and show about the central Star Wars story, not a multitude of spin-offs about not-Star Wars which happen to be set in the Star Wars universe. They should develop more original stories and settings. “Go out and make your own Star Wars” in the words of George Lucas.

The only problem is the central movies have turned out to be absolute dogshit under Disney.

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31 points

Yeah, hard agree. “Andor was great because it wasn’t about Jedi” is the wrong lesson to take.

Andor was great because it was made by people who were deeply passionate about what they were doing. They took the set dressing and the context that Star Wars offered and they used it to tell an incredibly powerful story of resistance against fascist oppression, everything that means and entails and what it costs. They created something powerful and vital that deserves and needs to exist.

We need more media that was created out of passion. We need artists to be set free to make art, not shackled to producing whatever a studio thinks is popular. That doesn’t mean it all has to be high minded, subtle or complex; John Wick was a work of artistic passion and it shows. The art is “Look how cool it is when Keanu Reeves shoots people”, but that can be art too. Subtle, complex morality plays or guns and explosions, or Jedi having lightsaber duels. It doesn’t matter. What matters is that people creating it really, really give a shit about what they’re making, and are allowed to make it the way they want to.

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14 points

Or in short: we need more things that were made because someone wanted to tell that particular story, not because someone needed to fill a slot in a release schedule.

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2 points

Yeah, too often stories involve just phoning parts in (or the majority, as was the case with episode 8). The story they end up releasing is full of plot holes and tactical and strategic errors.

They didn’t even try to create a coherent sequel trilogy arc and gave the different pieces to different people, one of whom didn’t really like star wars fans (though to be fair, I enjoyed that aspect at the time because the fanbase can be pretty toxic and Kylo Ren, from my interpretation, was making fun of toxic fans who turn their passion into shit for others they deem unworthy), and the other seemed to hate star wars itself. At least, that’s the only way I can understand how episode 8 ended up being such a steaming pile of shit. Rian hated heroes and people not following orders and shoehorned those positions into a series that heavily features heroes improvising in ways that often went directly against what they were told to do.

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2 points

I think everything you said here is great, but I’ve been in the “stop making Jedi shit” camp since Rogue One, maybe before.

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And funnily enough, AI powered tools will help with this. It’ll allow more singular or low number group creatives to take on works that would have required full studio teams (and the money to back said teams) in the past

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