I constantly see angry mobs of people decrying “woke”, “critical race theory”, ““grooming””, and whatever other nonsense they made up this week. They march around with guns, constantly appending lib as a prefix to any word they can use to denigrate. They actively plot violence and spew hatred in the open.
You never see the inverse. There is no ConservativesofTiktok getting churches harassed into shutting down for the day or calling in threats. You don’t see cringey boomer memes on the left. And whenever I openly express those feelings, try to create that sentiment; I get shut down. Noone agrees, I’m often shamed and muted. I just don’t understand why that parity exists, it’s extremely isolating to feel so alone in this
Liberals are dismissive of conservatives. You can only hate people so much when you infantilize them.
The right is too angry to listen, and the left is too arrogant to listen.
This is how democracy dies.
The right is too angry to listen, and the left is too arrogant to listen.
To listen to what?
Not to the racism and idiocy but to the underlying issues that fuel that anger.
The ACTUAL left (unlike the arrogant center right to right wing corporate stooges in control of the Dem party falsely claiming to be on the left) SHARE that same anger.
We just don’t blame minorities, secularism, the concept of objective knowledge and a lack of bigotry for what is clearly the fault of mainly rich and powerful white conservative and centrist people.
Those underlying issues are what left-wing people are trying to resolve already, though - wealth inequality, poor mental health, too much power in the hands of corporations and the mega-rich, removing outrage politics, etc.
Arrogant, interesting.
See, the issue to me is that one side comes up with real tangible solutions to problems, while the other side is busy smearing shit on the walls, getting red in the face screaming about deep state this or jew lasers that, and then people like you tell me we should engage those people and treat their ideas with respect and equal levels of severity.
See the issue here?
To add to this, the opposite of love is not hate, but ignore.
Giving your energy and attention to hating something typically means that they occupy enough mental real estate in your day to day life that you feel the need to broadcast it on a regular basis.
The liberals I know tend to spend the majority of their free time focusing on improving themselves and the world around them rather than simply target blame somewhere else.
You should really ask the same question - or its inverse - in a conservative forum. If you only ask it here, you’ll get a very skewed answer.
And to be honest, the question itself and the wording shows your bias as well. Whenever something about US politics is posted on Lemmy, there are always comments about how “they” are hate-filled people, how “they” are projecting, how “they” want to rape children. It’s a different expression of that hatred, but it is the same hatred.
Nope. No. Absolutely not. One side wants to take away peoples’ rights. The other one doesn’t. Miss me with your stupid bothsideism.
Not sure “liberals” is the right word, because it kind of encompasses all of the left, of which liberals are more center than left.
Anyway…
Because it’s at odds with with our moral compass and our knowledge of how human psychology works. We believe in people’s ability to learn, change, adapt, and become a better person. We see it practiced better in Europe than America, at least very often in respect to the criminal justice system, which the American version is abusive, unhelpful, and, well, conservative. On the other hand, the left thinks that even the conservatives that hate us deserve at least a bare opportunity at education and redemption. (Or at least most of the left anyway, tankies notwithstanding, of course.) We have science that supports compassion and conversion works better than abuse and ostracism. It takes a lot of fucking time and effort. A lot more than many would say they’re worth, and I get that, but it doesn’t mean it’s impossible.
We don’t hate them the same way because we’re not in a brainwashed cult like they are. While a lot of them may be too far gone, not all of them are, and as things spin out of control in the conservative world, increasing numbers of them are starting to question what they’re backing. It’s part of why the crowds protesting for Trump have slowly dwindled to pathetic numbers and have gotten increasingly strange and unhinged. Only the true believers are left, and their numbers are already dwindling in terms of those willing to come out and risk it for Trump.
Even when understanding the Paradox of Tolerance, you’d be hard pressed to find large numbers of leftists who think the best solution is the same kind of senseless eradication of the enemy that conservatives want. You’d find a large number of them who increasingly want to be armed and prepared if they are attacked by violent conservatives, but far fewer that want to be the one to fire the first shot in such a war.
Also, as to a counterpoint, I don’t know many leftists who don’t hate cops. Cops are pretty much universally conservative thugs and universally hated by everyone on the left.
“Liberal” means “the left” almost exclusively in North America (specifically the USA and Canada). In most of the world the term “liberal” means what Americans call “libertarians” (read: capitalist assholes).
Assuming that you used “liberals” to refer colloquially to the American left wing and “conservatives” to mean the right…
You do see the inverse. You see it in this thread: Calling conservatives rats, saying they don’t have morals. I just read all the current answers, and less than a third of them made any attempts to understand those on the right instead of othering them.
Oh noes, the idiots who literally tried an insurrection aren’t being coddled and offered a handy, it’s just awful!
Lol you’re a walking part of the question being asked. A literal version of it.
The hate for conservatives is just as strong from liberals.
Conservative: punches someone in the face
Literally anyone else: Hey asshole, don’t do that!
You: The hate for conservatives is just as strong from liberals.
Even if we’re using “conservatives” to refer to the entire right wing here, insurrectionists and those who support them are a tiny minority.
Calling a spade a spade is not the same as wanting people dead because they are different. Lying, cheating, and stealing are the opposite of having morals. What is there to understand? It’s pretty simple. I understand that you project everything you are guilty of. I understand that you want people dead simply because they aren’t what you think they should be. I understand that scum is scum, and if you don’t like being called scum, don’t do scummy things. Cry more, con.
Thats a loaded question if I’ve ever seen one.
I live in a heavily liberal city but have unhinged rightie friends in other states, including Texas amd Florida. The most unhinged ultra maga shit I see on their feed goes blow for blow with the brainless, bitter, amd sometimes hateful nonsense I see coming from my lefty friends feeds.
If one is a hateful loser of a certain ideology, they naturally blame the other side. It’s human nature.
