Republican county commissioner has been unseated in Michigan after losing to her Democratic challenger by 20 percentage points.

Chris Kleinjans won an Ottawa County election on Tuesday with 60 percent of the vote share, while the Republican incumbent Lucy Ebel lost, having received 40 percent.

Michigan is a battleground state that will be key to November’s presidential election. Donald Trump won the county with 61 percent of the vote in 2020.

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Michigan is a battleground state that will be key to November’s presidential election.

Friendly reminder that, thanks to the US-backed genocide of Palestinians in Gaza, we saw fully 13% of Democrats refuse to support Joe Biden in the Michigan primary

This, in a state where Democrat primary turnout was 768,158 relative to Republican primary turnout of 1,113,719.

This war is going to Jimmy Carter the Democrats in November, if they don’t change course in a hurry.

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13% of democrats submitted a protest vote. That is not the same as refusing to vote for Biden in November. I hope that anyone who supports the Palestinian cause can recognize just how much worse it will get under a Trump administration.

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That is not the same as refusing to vote for Biden in November.

That’s a clear signal by registered Democrats of their abstention of support for Biden.

House Reps aren’t seeing these huge protest votes.

I hope that anyone who supports the Palestinian cause can recognize just how much worse it will get under a Trump

I hope that Biden realizes he can’t wait until 2025 to change course in Palestine. Not when 1.4M lives are on the line.

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Not really, this is the damage to your brain that insufficient evidence can cause. Michigan has a storied history of large “Uncommitted” votes in uncontested primaries. For example, “Uncommitted” picked up 16.08% of the vote against Obama in 2012. If anything, this is evidence that support for Biden is stronger that would be expected in Michigan.

Also, you claim it’s evidence that registered Democrats are abandoning Biden; Michigan has an open primary.

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Lol unless Biden changes course, SE Michigan alone will ensure his loss of the state.

Dearborn does not screw around and will happily take 4 years of Trump if their demands are not met. They were very aware of Hillary’s sketchy past as Secretary of State when she ran in 2016 and she lost Michigan because only 10k people didn’t vote for her.

And iirc the total turnout was already like 400k less compared to Obama.

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Should we tell him?

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A democrat won by 20 points in Michigan?? I’m pretty staunchly leftist and I think that deserves a quick recount.

Edit: this was very much a joke, you guys are understandably passionate but civility is still appreciated.

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A county commissioner was defeated in a low-turnout out-of-cycle election by 20-pts.

  • Chris Kleinjans 2502 votes (60%)
  • Lucy Ebel (incumbent) 1665 votes (40%)

By contrast, in 2020, Ottawa County voted

  • Biden 64,705 38.4%
  • Trump 100,913 59.8%

So, a huge reversal. But in an election in which only 2% of Republican Presidential regulars turned out relative to 3.8% of Democrats.

I absolutely would not use this as a bell weather for the 2024 election.

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But then how are news sources going to make otherwise mundane events sound noteworthy?

BTW, 100% of person making this reply voted Democrat, therefore everyone in the country will also vote democrat.

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But then how are news sources going to make otherwise mundane events sound noteworthy?

Flipping the county is absolutely noteworthy, both because it was a recall election and because it flipped parties. Might want to fixate on the actual policy changes promised by the incoming administration, rather than the pure horse-race aspect of an election that’s six months off.

BTW, 100% of person making this reply voted Democrat, therefore everyone in the country will also vote democrat.

Unless they’re betrayed by the Fifth Columnist Trump-Loving Idiot Leftist College Muslims Who Hate America, of course.

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I was kidding and poking fun at republicans always demanding recounts. I’m actually quite happy and surprised a dem won. I truly don’t actually want a recount.

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That’s not how recounts work. It has to be close, and this wasn’t even close. Recounts address a margin of error. What you’re doing is dog whistling voter fraud, and I very, very seriously doubt you’re actually a staunch leftist.

You’re just a bad actor trying to give the illusion that our voting system shouldn’t be trusted.

Well.

You can fuck right off.

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I was truly just kidding and poking fun at republicans, no need to hurl insults.

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Ah, fair enough, fair enough.

Yeah, you got me then. I missed the /s in there. It’s been a long, long 8 years, so my patience has run thin for people who aren’t just making a joke.

Appreciate you clarifying. Cheers! :)

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Appreciate you saying this.

Anonymity means you can’t validate who anyone is or how they lean. All we have is logic and rhetoric.

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i don’t think miscounting can account for a 20 point difference. recounts make sense for close elections.

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I was really just kidding and poking fun at the calls for recounts republicans always make. I really don’t believe a 20 point margin can be the result of a miscount. Sarcasm is difficult to convey via text. I’ll leave it, though, I’m a good sport.

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oh ok, while I missed the intent I’m glad I avoided assuming malice at least.

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do you have any evidence of impropriety other than “hhhhhmmmmmmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔”?

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I was being very sarcastic and that was obviously a failure. I was poking fun at the right’s constant calls for recounts. There’s no way a 20 point spread can be due to a miscount.

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forgive me then, your voice got lost in a sea of idiots who simply cannot accept having lost under any circumstances.

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Wait… you need more than that to demand a recount?

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I mean, anyone can demand anything…

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Well a 31 point swing is a promising signal.

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A. It was a recall election (though still good).

B. Was this district affected by redistricting?

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It’s a county office, which usually means the “district” is the whole county. Unless it happens to work differently in this specific case.

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Nope, Ottawa County is still just a county. However, in the last election, the county commission got taken over by Ottawa Impact, a group of extremely far right activists that have proven very popular to a smaller segment of the population, and wildly unpopular with the majority of people in and around the county. It appears that there’s starting to be a backlash to their idiocy and hatred from the folks with any sense, it’s good to see

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He’ll have to take it lying down.

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