It’s an Ubuntu downstream maintained by Linux box maker System76 which is targeted for both general usability and design/media applications. They will soon be debuting their own home-spun desktop environment, Cosmic DE, which is highly anticipated by the Linux community.

How does the community here feel about this distribution and the company that has brought it to us? How do you feel about the projects that they’re working on, and their goals for the distribution moving forward?

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I really don’t like that underscore.

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34 points

The correct way of saying it out loud is “pop exclamation point underscore O S”

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And I thought it’s popos which is German and stands for asses

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No, you’re thinking of SUSE, which is German for “boringbutstablelinuxdistribution”.

Oddly, that short word-long word English/German translation thing works both ways.

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I’m reasonably sure it’s the popping sound you make with your mouth oh ess.

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9 points

Agreed

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4 points

PopOS would be better (IMO)

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I quite like “Pop!OS”.

Or perhaps a play on IBM: OS/Pop!

Now that I think about it. It’s just the !_ being beside each other that bugs me: OS_Pop! is cool.

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You and me both. I’d rather it just be Pop!OS. Or just, Pop. Or the better term: Soda.

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Me a programmer has a bigger issue with !

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28 points

I wish they based it on Debian. It definitely earns my personal recommendation for default distros alongside LMDE

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6 points

I dont understand why they didnt. Debian with gnome is essentially the same imo.

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Ubuntu is Debian with more up-to-date packages and a lot of additional third party packages. There’s a lot of companies who produce development toolkits, frameworks, and applications that are explicitly built for the Ubuntu base. Some governmental agencies and organizations also require access to packages and repositories that have been audited by security agencies, which Ubuntu has gone through the process of getting certification for certain kernels and their Ubuntu Pro repositories. All of which are useful for real world customers.

Regardless of shortcomings in Snap, Pop does not rely on Snaps, and offers its own packaging for things that would otherwise require Snap on Ubuntu.

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Thanks for elaborating. Learn something new every day. :)

I use pop os extensively so I knew about that but the government/security stuff was interesting. The main reason I went away from ubuntu was snap and pop is very useful.

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4 points

If a company with some resources makes a good Debian unstable based distro with a decent release cycle (could even be yearly), they’ll dominate the desktop market.

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24 points

Made the switch to Pop!_OS from Win10 half a year ago, and my machine’s been purring like a happy cat ever since. All my games still run (thanks, Proton!) and some even had a significant performance boost (RDR2 being the best example) with a 3090. Only problem I had was getting DaVinci Resolve to work properly, but I caved and bought the Studio version which runs perfectly.

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Your story is almost a carbon copy of mine. Really enjoyed using Pop.

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I’ve only used DaVinci for small projects, so I don’t know their eco system too well, but what made you buy a product when you were having problems getting it to work? :O Does the studio version offer better hardware acceleration or something like that?

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It had to do with encoding which works out-of-the-box in the Studio version, and not at all in the free version on Linux. I could’ve solved it by using something like Handbrake, but I didn’t want to add the extra step to my workflow. I also bought my Blackmagic 6K second-hand, so I’ve been wanting to properly pay them for their awesome products for a while now anyway.

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20 points

I like their window manager, pop-shell, and use it on Fedora. I used to daily Pop but just can’t stand Ubuntu.

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7 points

As someone newer who has only used Ubuntu and Mint, what do you get elsewhere?

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5 points

Why can’t you stand Ubuntu?

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I imagine it being about snaps. People seems to hate snap with a passion.

I still use Ubuntu in certain cases. Their LTS offerings are excellent.

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Yea but why?

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I think their current modified gnome is the best desktop that exists anywhere. Cosmic is a full desktop environment with an actual (auto) tiling window manager… a combo I think should be more common in desktops. The way they implement the tiling makes it really easy for beginners to use because you can turn it on/off by keyboard shortcut or clicking the plugin icon, and because you can just drag n drop windows to change their tiled positions (along with keyboard shortcuts if preferred). It’s hard to go back regular “window managers”.

The System76 devs have good ideas, they seem really cool, and sane! They have been a net positive for the Linux community and desktop development IMO. I am SO hyped for the new Cosmic DE!

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You realise KDE’s had tiling for years, right? (Bismuth and then native)

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There’s a very large gap between having tiling, and having excellent auto-tiling capabilities with intuitive shortcuts and behaviors. COSMIC’s autotiling was designed from the ground up to be just as usable with a mouse as it is with a keyboard.

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Bismuth (and Krohnkite before) never worked nearly as well for me, and AFAIK are both abandoned. The built in tiling is closer to FancyTiles/tiling zones, not auto-tiling like Pop Shell. Pop Shell also has been here for “years” by that metric lol

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Fair cop, a matter of definition of good enough, I guess.

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Well not really because I never stuck around on KDE very long. But I’m aware you can have tiling on any DE if you want. Its about the out of box experience you get on Pop. Its also important (for me) that the tiling is done automatically, no fiddling.

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