Remember the people suggesting to change the Hell Divers negative reviews because Sony listened?
They have learned nothing
They walked the PSN thing back, but still forbid sales to some countries. That doesn’t make any sense, is the Sony ship slow to steer or is Valve doing that? Or the third option, Sony is cooking up some bullshit…
Sounds like they will be bringing the PSN requirement back for future games maybe. The only thing they probably learned was to announce the requirement for account linking from the start and make it more vissible
Is that worth the loss of sales from those 177 or whatever it was extra countries? That’s the part that confuses me.
Probably bullshui but there’s a 3rd option that they have legal reasons not to operate servers in some of those regions and helldivers was violating those restrictions. It takes more than a week to review the legal code in 180 countries, review the internal policies in place and audit the game for any violations all with the added complexity that arrowhead and sony are independent entities.
Yeah I’m sure changing negative reviews is a factor here and totally wouldn’t have been an incentive for future good behavior
Their incentive is money. All this is teaching them is that they need to find a different approach to do the same thing.
The AAA outfits are trash and should die.
Steam is like the only company that I actually somewhat trust
Better than Steam I’d argue. Unlike Steam, games you buy on GOG are yours to keep forever. No DRM like steam that forces you to log on after a few days offline. You also get better version control.
Edit: the offline limit was a bug. Offline restrictions would be dependent on the DRM solution for each individual game.
There are DRM free games on steam. If you can launch the game directly from the exe while steam is off, then the game is DRM free.
The DRM layers are added by game publishers, not by Steam, but yeah it is a little annoying that games on steam have to be launched through steam. There are some fake Steam overheads floating around to bypass that for use of running games on multiple local machines simultaneously.
I liked it until CD Project Red showed they care about the shareholders more than the users with Cyberpunk. It’s clear that GOG will flip to be anti-consumer as soon as the shareholders change the company leadership. Enshittification comes for all companies because business majors don’t understand people.
Steam is private and Gaben is benevolent so that worry is distant. I also have no illusions that should Steam ever go public or change hands then the inevitable end of good, customer needs focused storefronts. But for now, Gave has proven he knows how to make a place consumers like myself want to use.
Gave Newell is 60+ years old and haven’t exactly taken the most care for his own health. We don’t know what will happen once he is gone.
With GOG there is nothing a change of leadership can do to your existing game library.
Also, CD Project had one of the worst stores and biased “media” in Poland. They region locked my games and told me “no one from abroad buys games :)” when I wrote to them that I can no longer Access my account or games.
GoG might be good now, but that still hurts me when I was a teenager and moved abroad. It was the only thing I had and they took it away from me. Fuck their DRM of old. Funny how they had the worst drm known to mankind and now have drm free store…
Fantastic if you’re a patient gamer. It’s the only place I get my games from. The only bad thing is the selection of games (lack of AA/AAA games) and a bad client compared to Steam because they’re not a multi-billion dollar company like Valve is. We had to wait 12 years for Skyrim to finally come out for example.
Yeah that whole Dolphin thing was weird. Seemed like valve just didn’t want to deal with the legal headaches of fighting Nintendo in court over an application that didn’t really need to be on the steam store in the first place.
Can’t say I blame them really.
Personal opinion time: I don’t think emulators belong on a commercial store anyway. Keep them on their own websites or Github. Putting them on a store like steam is just asking for trouble.
My take: emulators and in platform competition should be fair game. An ecosystem monopoly is still a monopoly.
Steam has got to be considering blacklisting them as a publisher over this. This is so, so dumb.
I’m afraid they would just make yet another barely functioning launcher/storefront
We need to blacklist anti-libre software. They do this because we let them.
I wasnt considering buying any more snoy games after this whole debacle, and I certainly won’t if they make their own launcher. But unfortunately the average gamer just doesn’t care :(
Why would they? They still get a %30 cut of those $70 games. Blacklisting them would just be giving GoG and Epic a leg up in being the only stores you can play Sony blockbusters.
Just a reminder that the steam Refund policy in America is illegal everywhere else in the world. They aren’t this great company that’s consumer first. They are trying to make as much money as possible and have Allowed the likes of 2k games and EA to be as scummy as possible on their platform.
I’m genuinely very confused - why is the steam refund policy illegal everywhere except America?
I think he means Steam’s refund policy is not available to anyone outside the US because they only implemented it to comply with a US law, so like if you are in a country without similar consumer protection laws they don’t offer the refund policy. (its not just the US btw, places like Canada and the EU also have the Steam refund policy)
I hope they bill Sony ten times of what they are losing out on now. They need to set a precedent that no other publisher will want to repeat what Sony did.
Yeah, they’ve got to come up with some publisher-aimed punitive actions, because this is frankly indefensible.
These companies are obsessed with money. The money they lost on refunds forced by Steam is the punishment.
I’m just not sure if the refund goes all the way back to Sony, or if steam is fronting the loss. If the latter, I imagine punitive action would be figured out pretty quickly.
I’m not in an affected country, nor did I plan to play multiplayer, but I still removed it from my wishlist and decided to boycott all titles requiring a PSN account. If you want to have some option but annoying account service, fine. I can survive clicking the X on that. But if they push this hard then we know they’ll push this onto all games next.
Have you looked at the list of affected countries? Are you really that upset that these titles aren’t available (for purchase) in places like Haiti and Afghanistan?
Have you? Because it also contains countries like Baltics. But that’s not even the point. The point here is that Sony forces restrictions upon users for absolutely no reason or benefit for them, just so that Sony has some numbers to show to their shareholders. But thanks for proving my point about you people. You’re literally the reason why companies like Sony, EA, Ubisoft, etc. can ruin the gaming market without repercussions.
Honestly… That’s a fairly harsh response to someone with an opinion…
I kind of feel they don’t deserve that attack… It doesn’t mean they have any plans to buy it.
I wouldn’t, and I’m actually selling my ps5 and set up my old PC with steam and big picture mode… But, pointing out the disadvantages in a normal way is more effective than attacking people
