Lemmy: “We hate capitalism! Companies aren’t your friends! Down with corporrations! Down with billionaires!”
Also Lemmy: “Except Steam! We love vidyagames! Valve is friend! Gaben is bae! No, we don’t understand irony.”
They’re blinded by love. And they love to hate.
Wait till they find out about Linus Torvalds’ net worth 😅
Linus Torvalds net worth could be way higher if he took jobs a big tech companies (that were easily available to him) instead of choosing a career path that ensure Linux’ independence.
150 million is nothing for what Linus has control over. That’s like the combined net worth of 100 of the top paid strippers in Vegas. (I’m going by vice documentary numbers)
Exactly. Fuck the rich unless I use what they made for me, then give 'm billions because millions ain’t hardly enough for them.
I mean, gabe has yet to do anything to piss me off yet. At this point I’m looking directly at the head of whatever organization.
Also this is a dumb take, if everyone had the same ideals on Lemmy then you would be part of this, you’re seeing different posts by different people and conflating the two
Valve has faced criticisms from former employees in the past for its toxic work culture. And Gabe Newell, being the CEO, has a lot of power over that.
Just because the places you frequent on the internet don’t shove criticism of Valve down your throat the same way it would do so for, say, Epic Games, doesn’t mean there’s nothing wrong with Valve as a company. All the pro-Valve/Steam information you get and the general sentiment towards Gabe Newell from people on Lemmy and Reddit are pure, undiluted corporate propaganda. That it comes from Steam users rather than being something Steam directs and pays for doesn’t change what it is.
you’re seeing different posts by different people and conflating the two
This ignores the reality that Lemmy is, at least in the part of it consisting of lemmy.ml, lemmy.world, and others, overwhelmingly leftist. This comment also attempts to dismiss the underlying criticism that Lemmy as a whole has a culture that, much like reddit, seeks to pick and choose its targets under capitalism and actively engages in corporate apologia, like in this post, while collectively professing a broad ethos that is outright hypocritical when viewed in the light of that other behavior. And if you think Lemmy is amenable to a diverse array of economic opinions, then maybe you should try posting a “Capitalism Appreciation Thread” on a major lemmy instance and see how that goes over.
Everyone has accused every workplace of toxic culture. At this point I’m pretty sure going to someone and asking them to do their fucking job is toxicity.
I hate capitalism. And Valve. Because it’s a capitalist institution and I’m at least consistent.
Ah Of course. It is impossible to criticize any actions taking place by any entity against a capitalist entity without defending capitalism yourself. Cehckmate liberals.
It is impossible to criticize any actions taking place by any entity against a capitalist entity without defending capitalism yourself.
It depends on the purpose and shape of that criticism. If you criticize a communist nation banning a particular corporation’s marketplace from their country on the basis that doing so is a part of a grift that seeks to engineer a national-level monopoly over a particular corporate sector by banning external competition, then, sure, that’s a valid criticism because the intent is innately unethical. But if the Vietnamese video game industry is actively harmed by Steam, an American company, using its vast resources to outcompete Vietnamese publishers, then what is your opposition to this that doesn’t encompass a de facto defense of free market capitalism?
I don’t think steam is doing that the government of vietnam isn’t claiming they are banning steam for that reason. What is happening is that the government of vietnam is actively hurting their domestic video game developers because they have instituted onerous “government scrutiny” whereas if you want to publish on Steam it costs like $150 and an email address.
The problem solely lies with the Vietnamese government, as a self-inflicted problem, no where else.
But if the Vietnamese video game industry is actively harmed by Steam, an American company, using its vast resources to outcompete Vietnamese publishers, then what is your opposition to this that doesn’t encompass a de facto defense of free market capitalism?
Not GP but the article didn’t say that Steam outcompeted local developers by “using its vast resources”. On the contrary, it alleged that local developers cannot compete on Steam with international developers, because those do not have to apply the local regulations:
Citing it as “an injustice to domestic publishers”, Vietnamese studios reportedly say that local game development “will die” if Steam is able to keep releasing games without the same government scrutiny as domestic games.
A somewhat shaky argument considering that the same is true for many other countries applying their own local regulations, which Vietnamese developers do not have to follow.
But anyway, what is my opposition that doesn’t encompass a de facto defence of free market capitalism? The damage to the users. What about all the Vietnamese people losing access to Steam’s online features, which are arguably necessary nowadays for many games, especially multiplayer ones. And for what? To benefit Vietnamese businesses? Not very socialist of you comrade Vietnam. *smh*
In any case, this is all pure speculation at this point, since both parties have yet to make a statement about the situation:
At the time of writing, there’s been no formal word from Vietnamese authorities or Steam about the “ban”, […]
That said, my current head cannon goes something like this:
Vietnamese devs: Dude, these regulations on games are killing us. We can’t compete on Steam with games like these.
The Party: Okay we hear you. *bans Steam*
Vietnamese devs: Wait, what? (← we are here)
Edit: formatting
Damn commies, refusing to allow people to install DRM-ridden proprietary spyware from in the US. They just hate our fr$$dom! 👺
Based.
Good
Less data siphoned off to the USA. Less markets for a US company. One avenue less for western propaganda.
Didn’t you know? it’s good when US bans/sanctions foreign companies, when other countries does it, it’s AUTHORITARIAN. And companies in US are totally not in bed with the government.
Everyone else must run spyware “Made in the USA” or else you’re causing some irreparable harm of sorts.
Don’t some games in steam run Anticheat as rootkits? That’s totally okay, because it’s from the great USA.
Totally not an attack vector. I swear.
FREEEEEDOM.
Good for them. Interested in what vietnamese indie devs produce in the coming years