cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15197917
Boy, I bet many people are going to comment on this that either A) don’t live in an affected city, or B) didn’t bother reading the article and seeing the nuance in the situation.
Okay big boy, please share the nuance of how homeless people chose that condition in life, and how a ban does ANYTHING other than try to export “undesirables” ala the GOP sending migrants to Martha’s Vineyard?
I think you are projecting a viewpoint on to my words that I didn’t assert. Did I say, or even imply, that I am for or against these bans? I stated I believe that people that comment on this will probably have less information than necessary to make a reasonable argument.
Fair…
You still haven’t shared your expert nuance after reading a pretty cut and dry article.
You are implying that you’re for the bans, or at the very least, that they’re reasonable because of some nuance. You literally do that again here in this comment:
people that comment on this will probably have less information than necessary to make a reasonable argument.
The default conclusion that most will have is that banning homeless people is a really shitty thing to do. What extra info do we need to reasonably come to the conclusion? Where’s the nuance? I even went and read the first half or so and skimmed the rest(because it seemed repetitive and is more lengthy than I wanted to read) but there’s nothing there that even attempted to change my mind.
Apparently Japan also has a homeless problem, I don’t recall how bad. But they have a culture that shames them so bad that they go to extreme lengths to mask their homelessness.
It shows that you have public services that work so well that they are worth using to someone for whom money is no object.
I’ve seen this personally. Locally, the bus system runs so slowly that only the most desperate people take it. I don’t feel safe riding that bus. It took multiple hours to get to work.
Meanwhile, I used to live in a college town where the bus hits the stops every five minutes. Everyone uses the bus because it’s so convenient, and there’s no reason to feel uncomfortable riding one because the people who ride the bus are just regular people.
Why do they ride it? Because the city has functioning public transportation. Build services that are worth using.
Between migrant workers needing to go anywhere else (namely Florida to Martha’s Vinyard), college protersters needing to be sent to Gaza, and now homeless (its not unhoused, thats newspeak. Its Sexual Assault not SA, its Murder/Suicide not Unaliving, its homeless, not unhoused) needing to be sent anywhere else, all I can fixate on is how obsessed The Party is with making people move (you can say “Its Republicans doing that!” but its not. Its the entirety of the Federal government advancing these narratives).
The modern strategy of the rich and the taint-lickers (government officials) is forced nomad lifestyle.
This is NOTHING new.
Strikes a nerve for me because I’m a quarter Gypsy (hailing from Bohemia, the region now called the Czech Republic). Gypsy is an EXTREMELY offensive term. In the Holocaust, “Jews” took the brunt, “Gypsies” took most of the rest, “Gays” and “Colored” took the rest.
Gypsies are kind of like Jews.
“Jews” in the largest sense, are those who were expelled from their homes and settled in a new home, all the adversity endured, as is depicted by Moses moving the Jews from Egypt to Bethlehem.
“Gypsies” are those who were expelled from their homes, and were met with gun-barrels wherever they went, so they were kept moving. Forced nomads.
Which makes me look at the news today. “Anti-Zionist” as in “against Israel displacing Palestinians with plans of luxury condos” is now called “Antisemitic”. But if we go to the historical root of the words, Israel is acting like Egypt, and Palestinians are being made Jews, if you remove the religion “Judaism” from the mix.
And here in America, as the people identify as Anti-Zionist, but Palestinians are being displaced from their homes by Israel, arguably making them “Palestinian Jews” or “Palestinian Gypsies” depending on how the world treats their refugees, one of the big things the Supreme Court decided was that Homeless are Gypsies.
Send em packing. Shoot one of em dead, and that’s cool as long as they keep moving. Over time, we will have shot all of em dead.
Where did we end up so wrong?
Oh ya, Citizens United.
