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Between migrant workers needing to go anywhere else (namely Florida to Martha’s Vinyard), college protersters needing to be sent to Gaza, and now homeless (its not unhoused, thats newspeak. Its Sexual Assault not SA, its Murder/Suicide not Unaliving, its homeless, not unhoused) needing to be sent anywhere else, all I can fixate on is how obsessed The Party is with making people move (you can say “Its Republicans doing that!” but its not. Its the entirety of the Federal government advancing these narratives).

The modern strategy of the rich and the taint-lickers (government officials) is forced nomad lifestyle.

This is NOTHING new.

Strikes a nerve for me because I’m a quarter Gypsy (hailing from Bohemia, the region now called the Czech Republic). Gypsy is an EXTREMELY offensive term. In the Holocaust, “Jews” took the brunt, “Gypsies” took most of the rest, “Gays” and “Colored” took the rest.

Gypsies are kind of like Jews.

“Jews” in the largest sense, are those who were expelled from their homes and settled in a new home, all the adversity endured, as is depicted by Moses moving the Jews from Egypt to Bethlehem.

“Gypsies” are those who were expelled from their homes, and were met with gun-barrels wherever they went, so they were kept moving. Forced nomads.

Which makes me look at the news today. “Anti-Zionist” as in “against Israel displacing Palestinians with plans of luxury condos” is now called “Antisemitic”. But if we go to the historical root of the words, Israel is acting like Egypt, and Palestinians are being made Jews, if you remove the religion “Judaism” from the mix.

And here in America, as the people identify as Anti-Zionist, but Palestinians are being displaced from their homes by Israel, arguably making them “Palestinian Jews” or “Palestinian Gypsies” depending on how the world treats their refugees, one of the big things the Supreme Court decided was that Homeless are Gypsies.

Send em packing. Shoot one of em dead, and that’s cool as long as they keep moving. Over time, we will have shot all of em dead.

Where did we end up so wrong?

Oh ya, Citizens United.

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I’ve never figure out how these people are expected to pull themselves out of their situation. Drug use is merely a symptom, the cause is living conditions and an existence that makes being sober untenable.

“Get a job”? Find a job that will hire anyone on the spot, AND that can pay for an actual place to live.

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they are expected to not exist because they are an eyesore and reminder of human fragility.

nobody cares about them ‘pulling themselves out of their situation’

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A significant number of homeless in CA and WA have at least 1 job as far as I know.

Fast food workers make up 6% of the CA homeless population, for example.

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“Get a job”? Find a job that will hire anyone on the spot, AND that can pay for an actual place to live.

It can be done. The job IS going to suck, and you will hate your fucking life for doing it, but it can be done.

https://www.indeed.com/q-general-labor-l-seattle,-wa-jobs.html

Better if you at least have a drivers license.

https://www.indeed.com/q-lot-attendant-l-seattle,-wa-jobs.html

https://www.indeed.com/q-parking-attendant-l-seattle,-wa-jobs.html

I helped a friend throw sod in a back yard one time. Hardest fucking job I’ve ever done in my life, I’ll never do it again. But it paid. :)

https://www.indeed.com/q-turf-l-seattle,-wa-jobs.html

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https://livingwage.mit.edu/metros/42660

The problem with homelessness is that each person’s situation is a bit different, now to you it might sound like a massive lump of excuses when heard all together, but to an individual the one or multiple things that prevents them from having personal stability is a massive barrier.

anecdote

I once helped a homeless stranger get a bus back to Alberta because he hitchhiked to Vancouver over 3 months but couldn’t find the opportunity he wanted to (plus the rents here are upwards of 1500USD equivalent for a small studio), so he wanted to go back. He used to work in construction but he got fired and his wife left him. He wasn’t drunk or high, he was just bumming cigs from people and begging for money. Spending a day with him, I found that little things made him nervous and stressed him out, he couldn’t really advocate for himself well, had nothing but a broken android tablet with his expired health card and birth certificate, and he couldn’t read 24 hour time. The intercity bus operator wouldn’t let him on the bus bc he looked too dirty, even though he was a paying customer. I get him cleaned up at the community shower, a new pair of pants, and I book a flight for him (which ended up being around the same as the bus) gave him 50USD equivalent spending money and the addresses of libraries, charities, employment centres in Lethbridge (this is where he came from). At the airport, they were bugging him that he had only 1 valid ID and 1 expired photo ID, I had to escalate for him 3 times for them to allow him through and get accomodations to guide him through the airport. Something that’s normally so easy to get through if you have a ticket and a phone and whatever is a nightmare for someone so disadvantaged.

Trying to apply for work, not get scammed and advocate for yourself throughout a process is honestly a challenge that is tougher than the actual labour. I’d been taking those things for granted myself. Fines and fees for being poor just worsens the problem.

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Did you get that job unwashed? Unshaved? I’m whatever clothing that was in laundered? With severe depression and anxiety?

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It was done in grubbies on my day off because I knew going in it was a hard, dirty job. Nobody cares as long as the job gets done.

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My brother said the same thing. “He can go get a job at McDonalds.”

Ok, do you think McDs wants to hire someone who hasn’t bathed recently? How will he eat after work if he hasn’t been panhandling during the day? What happens between now and his first paycheck? What if he doesn’t have a bank account when that arrives?

It’s as if getting a job doesn’t immediately cure your problems. My brother sorta seemed to be persuaded in that he didn’t push the idea any further.

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Sorry that was for the other guy

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There are super shady jobs that pay in cash daily. Hang around a Home Depot parking lot before opening and get a gig with a contractor looking for manual labor.

Oh, it’s going to fucking suck, and you’ll feel like you’re going to die on day 1. But work is there for the willing.

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What contractor wants to smell a homeless guy? How are they going to work? How does the contractor know he’s not a psychopath murderer? Do you even listen to yourself?

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So the homeless should be exploited for illegally low wages (a form of slavery) just like we treat certain immigrants?

If your advice to people to help them get out of homelessness is to allow themselves to enter a slave market, you are part of the problem.

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Not to mention they are not overseen by OSHA, so if you get hurt on the job, and you’re still homeless, you might die!

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It shows that you have public services that work so well that they are worth using to someone for whom money is no object.

I’ve seen this personally. Locally, the bus system runs so slowly that only the most desperate people take it. I don’t feel safe riding that bus. It took multiple hours to get to work.

Meanwhile, I used to live in a college town where the bus hits the stops every five minutes. Everyone uses the bus because it’s so convenient, and there’s no reason to feel uncomfortable riding one because the people who ride the bus are just regular people.

Why do they ride it? Because the city has functioning public transportation. Build services that are worth using.

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Apparently Japan also has a homeless problem, I don’t recall how bad. But they have a culture that shames them so bad that they go to extreme lengths to mask their homelessness.

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Yeah it’s not a perfect society by any means, I’m sorry if that was implied. Lots of shame. But they do a lot of things a lot better than the US

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I’ve been saying this forever, homeless folks need to learn how to levitate so they’re just in the air. Or will the government ban that, too?

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The government will get the FAA involved at that point.

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No levitation in public spaces!

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