Half Of PlayStation Players Still Haven't Upgraded To PS5

It’s like all we heard about the PS5 was that it was super hard to get when it came out and then it kind of disappeared from our collective consciousness

XBox has always been a weird console. It never really competes with Nintendo because NIntendo always does its own general thing and also slides neatly into the kids and family market. So it competes with Playstation by default. Except Playstation actually has contracts with good studios to make exclusive games. What’s a non-Halo exclusive for the XBox? Back in the day, you’d play games like Gears of War, Halo (obviously), Fallout 3, Psychonauts, KOTOR, COD, etc. I can’t think of a single meaningful game on the most recent generation for the XBox.

One of my favorites was Project Gotham, but they shuttered that studio in favor of Forza which just isn’t as good.

Yeah that and it’s still super expensive and does not have system sellers for me. Eg. Uncharted.

Also I don’t need another PC, thank you.

It is still super hard to get

I’ve seen them stocked in my local stores for the past year. The Xbox series X/S as well. I kinda thought it was like that everywhere now? Are they really still sold out and being scalped for crazy mark up prices where you live?

You are right, I haven’t checked for a while, I thought it was still unavailable. I ordered one yesterday.

It did? Who’s collective consciousness are you attached to? It’s a huge fucking hit.

Well, the numbers show otherwise.

That’s a good thing - as the consumer.

The less exclusives, the better. We don’t need lock-ins, we need open platforms and open systems. If I want a plug&play gaming experience I can buy a console, if I want maximum performance and quality in a more maintenance and setup intensive package I can build my own PC.

For real - it’s so nice nowadays being able to play nearly any hot new game I want to on my desktop. Never been a huge fan of consoles - keyboard+mouse was always far more natural for me, but then again I was big into C&C and SC when I was a kid. The only console I’ve really loved since the N64 is the switch, and that’s largely because I can bring it on a long flight and fuck around in ZELDA: BOTW or TOTK for hours on end, which is awesome (I tend to avoid putting games on my personal dev laptop, and it also only has an iGPU).

MKB is more natural because controllers are redesigned constantly to create a false sense of innovation. The fundamentals of controlling a figure on a screen have not changed, nor have hands.

its almost like it needed the exclusives to be worth it

Here are the trends with previous consoles:

PS1 : 455 -> PS2 : 512 -> PS3 : 180 -> PS4 : 58 -> PS5 : 15

Xbox : 106 -> Xbox 360 : 214 -> Xbox One : 12

Nintendo 64 : 129 -> Nintendo Wii : 328 -> Nintendo Wii U : 38 -> Nintendo Switch : 174

And that’s why the newest console I own is a Switch, and everything else I play is on PC.

I’ve even moved all my Switch playing to PC hahaha

That’s super interesting. Do you have a source you could link for this data?

I just referenced the data in the wikipedia container article here for some select consoles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category%3ASingle-platform_video_games?wprov=sfla1

They’re a gamer what other credentials do you need?

Now do the same for PC

The source notes that for Mac there have been 2 exclusive games across all versions, and for Windows, there have been about 2560 across all versions. There doesn’t appear to be a listing for Linux unfortunately.

So the Xbox one series (aka Xbox one 2) has zero dedicated games?

It depends on how the source categorized the information and how Microsoft classifies the Xbox One versus the Xbox One Series (whether as being two actual different consoles, or two versions of the same console.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category%3ASingle-platform_video_games

There is only one entry for anything related to Xbox One as far as I can see so I expect the 12 it notes are distributed across all versions of the Xbox One, or that there are 0 dedicated games for the Xbox One Series proper.

where is the GameCube or xbox series?

I don’t think Xbox Series has exclusives. All of their stuff is on PC afaik.

There is no listing in the source for Xbox Series, however Gamecube shows 80 exclusive titles.

Jesus, only 4 games in that otherwise short short list ring a bell for me.

Its a good time to be a PC player. I mean, it was before. But it is now, too.

Shouldn’t FF16 also be on this list? Given that FF7 Rebirth will almost definitely see a PC port, I don’t think the ongoing development of an FF16 PC port should exclude it from the list.

“meaning the other 59 million must still be using the PlayStation 4.”

That’s not what that means.

As of last December there were still 2 million active PS3 users.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2023/12/26/ps3-monthly-active-users-report/

I’d imagine there’s still a limited number of PS Vita and PSTV accounts too.

Hacked Vita is still great.

Hacked Vita with RetroArch is so so so much fun!!

Hacked vita is goated

I had a lot of fun with my Vita even without hacking it. It had a longer lifetime than people realize, in part through digital sales and indie games that were planning to do PS3/PS4 releases anyway.

I stopped at the PS2…

Still the best console of all time so that’s a pretty solid stopping point

The best console is still foot with bash.

I don’t think PSN applied to the PS2, started with the PS3.

PS2 didn’t have networking apart from the odd firewire port and a very expensive devkit.

Was gonna say, I never bought a PS4. My PS3 is still kicking.

I just got a second one because it was peanuts and came with two good controllers while mine are all kind of subtly broken.

I do actually have a PS4 with 5 controllers because once bit. I don’t know if I’ll find the time, but if I feel like playing something stuck on the three like infamous or demons souls, I can.

Maybe I’ll get the 5 one day. And maybe I’ll find that emulation can solve the old title problem.

One of these years my children will discover the PS3 hidden unused in the entertainment center since they were born, and there’ll be 2mil+1. Muhaha.

When a new generation starts, I hook it up in the living room, move the previous gen to the bedroom, and mothball the oldest gen.

So when I kick off, my kid, or grand kids, are going to discover organized boxes of gaming gear. I’m sure it will be all over whatever passes for social media then. :)

Currently:

Living Room - PS5, Xbox Series X, Steam Deck Dock.

Bedroom - PS4, Xbox One X, Switch.

I still use my PS3, enough great and cheap games and can play my PS1 and 2 games on the big screen with wireless controllers.

Newer games I play on PC anyways.

For me, it was:

You couldn’t get one for ages when it came out, so I missed the initial hype period.
When it did finally become available, it was prohibitively expensive.
There are no real killer exclusives or features so no particular reason to upgrade, aside from games looking nicer.
Sony is releasing all the good stuff on PC now, so if I want to play a nicer-looking version of a PS4 game I can just do that.
Steam Deck

My ps5 is basically a really big PS4 lately.

Yeah, but at the same time it makes the PS4 games a much better experience. I dunno if that justifies the spend for a lot of people, but I don’t regret getting one.

It also doesn’t help that a bunch of games have an upgrade charge, I mostly just use it for Blu-ray lately.

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Half Of PlayStation Players Still Haven't Upgraded To PS5(kotaku.com)

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