Dumb cunt
That’s cool, but choosing to do nothing is also a choice and you’ll see worse results under Trump, maybe even American forces helping out in the genocide, complete withdrawal of any Palestinian relief efforts, even more weapons provided without any conditions, and repression of groups here in the US. Saving the Palestinians would be great, but throwing out everything else for their sake when it won’t even make a difference just seems childish. If Trump gets power again, you won’t even have the freedom to worry about the Palestinians anymore, but you’ll still have to live with dead Palestinian children under rubble.
With Biden, there’s at least attempts at trying to reign in the Israelis. The US has less sway over the Israelis than what many probably think, as we can see with Israel’s/Netanyahu’s flippant attitude towards Biden’s urgings for restraint. Israel specifically started positioning itself to be less reliant on US influence since the 90s. We should still just stop sending them weapons altogether, but at least under Biden there an effort to stop it (as ineffectual as they are). Under Trump, the US will give increased enthusiastic support.
She endorsed Biden and kept pushing for him in 2020. Now because she voices how she feels she’s an idiot?
Blue MAGA gonna Blue MAGA. Voter shaming doesn’t work.
She maintained, that despite her stance, she is not encouraging people not to vote. “I’m not encouraging anybody to not vote. You do what you want to do, but I’m telling you what I’m doing and that’s it,” she said. "But the more you know, and the more passionate you become, the more you see that our leaders are evil."She said that people have told her that she needs to “pick the lesser evil” when it’s time to vote this year, but she considers both of them “evil.”
“I’m all for protecting America and for the better of America, but this war is not doing nothing for America and it hurts me,” she said. “Children are dying… I hate that, that disgusts me no matter what religion, no matter what language we speak. We all have one thing in common. We love our children, we love our parents, we love our family.”
https://www.complex.com/music/a/backwoodsaltar/cardi-b-talks-about-refusing-to-vote-for-biden-trump
Cool.
Now everybody go fucking vote.
Protest every fucking step of the way. But on 11/5 get your ass to the polls. Voting is not an endorsement, it’s a measure to hold back the christofascist state so more ten year olds don’t have to carry their rapist’s baby to term.
How much are you getting paid? I only wish I was as passionate about my job as you are about yours.
In good faith: did you hear anyone actually say this? Biden’s a Clinton Democrat: more friendly to big business than to the working class. He was never going to be a class-leftist, and nobody promised he would be.
But he has been socially liberal, and he didn’t need any nudging. He was always socially liberal.
And those are your choices, for better or worse: an economically right-leaning, socially left-leaning old white man; or an economically hard-right, socially hard-right old white man.
The only way to fix this is to get rid of the electoral college and implement something other than first-past-the-post voting. Not voting is not going to fix it. In the meantime, you try to get the guy elected who isn’t trying to instigate a dictatorship.
Biden has not been socially liberal. He’s been an establishment Democrat his whole career. He has trailed the left and towed the line of the party, but he has patently not been socially liberal. However, he has atleast brought on policy advisors who are socially liberal like Heather Boushey, Stef Feldman, and Brian Deese.
Here are some links for reference.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/09/us/politics/biden-centrist.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/11/opinions/biden-budget-proposal-centrism-ghitis/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/us/politics/joe-biden-advisers.html
If you want nudge your government to the left you certainly won’t achieve it by letting the candidate from the right win.
The problem’s voting for the candidate doesn’t work either. Or Voting 3rd party. Or Voting Republican. Or primarying in a more leftist candidate (because they often fight and lose to the DNC).
Apparently, neither does going on record as not voting for him as a protest. Hmmmm… what was the way to move the Democrats left?
What do you suggest the left do? I know you’ve said you believe in protesting at the polls. What’s step two?
Centrist Dems went back to brunch and got lazy once Biden won. Maybe we need a fire lit under people’s asses to get them in the streets and fighting for change again.
Now everybody go fucking vote.
Vote for whom? You clearly don’t want me to vote for just anyone, so say the name. Stop being a pussy and say who it is you want me to vote for.
Our system is pretty broken, but if you’re given a lever to pull (voting) you may as well pull it. There is no benefit to be gained from opting out.
Idk, seems like one way to peacefully make a system illegitimate and obsolete
It’s never worked in the past. So surely it will work this time!
The system doesn’t care if you think it’s legitimate or not. Especially if you don’t vote. They’ve worked hard to take the votes of many, nullify the votes of others. They’ll just laugh at the ones that waste theirs.
Optimistic thinking! But I’m afraid such protests are futile for many reasons. The biggest issue is that refusing to vote has no visibility; it is not like a real protest or real activism. You simply disappear in numbers small enough to not matter, and those in power will continually claim the power until contested.
There is no reconciling with those in power through pacifism. History teaches us this time and time again. Continue to vote while you can, and remember Trotsky’s ideals for when things go bad.
- Never trust the ruling class
- Control your leaders
- Have confidence in your own abilities
I’m sure the people on the right — who already actively engage in suppressing the vote of people who do want to vote — will feel deeply concerned about the legitimacy of their increased power due to people on the left deciding not to vote.
And I’m sure the Democrats, who will then have even less power in the federal government, will somehow use their non-power to pass laws to make things better in order to woo these non-voters who have proven their unreliability.
