Israel’s prime minister and senior figures with the Palestinian group are wanted for war crimes.

Archived version: https://archive.ph/xfGGI

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They just absolutely had to both-sides a genocide, eh?

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There are no two sides here. It’s the same side of two different coins. Netanyahu is a war criminal for genocide, and Hamas leaders are responsible for civilian deaths from their terror attack.

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“Their terror attack” lol. My man, if the term terror attack was around in the 1940s, Hitler would have used it to describe the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. And make no mistake- this is a ghetto uprising. If you don’t want people to make a violent bid for freedom, don’t spend decades torturing and murdering them in an open air concentration camp with no recourse. Simple.

Terrorist is buzzword that fascist states apply to people who stand up for themselves, who return even a fraction of the violence they are made to suffer every day. “Terrorist” is just “savage” with a fresh coat of paint. Every slave revolt and anti-colonial uprising in history has been tarred with the same brush.

There is no Hamas without Isreal.

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If you don’t want people to make a violent bid for freedom, don’t spend decades torturing and murdering them in an open air concentration camp with no recourse. Simple.

I’m with you here. The violence is of Israel’s own making, but no matter how “just” one believes their actions are, they are still against international humanitarian law. I apply the same standard to everyone, be it Hamas, Israel, Poland, Germany, Russia, Ukraine, China, United States, etc.

If you are willing to spill civilian blood, you also should be willing to take responsibility for those actions.

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Nah, it’s safe to apply the label terrorist to ANYONE who decides to hold children for ransom

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While I agree with your general point, it’s still a war crime to take civilians as hostages.

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I mean is there anything proving Hamas leaders intentionally planned any civilian deaths? They’re definitely not doing enough to stop them, but I don’t think I’ve seen anything specifically incriminating their top brass.

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They are money holders, and it was a well financed and coordinated attack. And they are in direct control even now as they try to negotiate ceasefire and hostage release.

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Then who orchestrated the attacks on only civilians? Hamas hurting civilians is nothing new. Both sides have been assholes long before this started. Everyone in the region would benefit from both parties being prosecuted.

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They launched a brutal assault on literal ravers and then commenced to invade civilian homes. The fuck did you think they were planning to do there? They clearly did not go for military targets. Playing terrorist apologist is a seriously weird take on that matter.

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Even ignoring that these people are mandatorily required to serve in the IOF, there are very few settler-colonial civilians (children, others without agency, and anyways these civilians are only here by the will of the settlers). It’s ridiculous to equate Palestinian civilians with “Israelis” not actively in the IOF when the latter chooses to occupy Palestinian land and displace the natives in the brutal practice that is settler-colonialism.

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It is entirely possible for both sides of a conflict to be committing war crimes.

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NOOOO YOU CAN’T HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CIVILIAN CASUALTIES

-Genocidal war criminal

Also crazy to think that hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians have died as a result of post-9/11 US wars and yet no one in the states is held to this standard.

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We aren’t part of the ice and actually have plans to storm The Hague if they arrest one of ours.

It’s all very rules for thee over here

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There were over one million deaths as a result of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Yes but I’ve seen most estimates state that about 435,000 of those were civilian. I’m sure that’s bullshit but I want to be accurate to the estimates I’ve seen.

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Israel, he said, has a right to defend itself but not by “intentionally causing death, starvation, great suffering, and serious injury to body or health of the civilian population” which he said were criminal acts.

Which he said were criminal acts? Terrorising, torturing, starving, and bombing civilians are all war crimes. It’s pathetic how beholden mainstream media is to our economic and geopolitical interests.

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Karim Khan KC said there were reasonable grounds to believe that both men bore criminal responsibility for war crimes and crimes against humanity from the day of Hamas’s attack on Israel on 7 October onwards.

Maybe I’m missing something, but when someone commits a war crime (or in this case multiple war crimes), are the things they have done not criminal acts? Did the BBC edit their article afterwards to assert they are war crimes?

They also write that Karim Khan calls Israel’s war a “war of extermination.”

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Good. The leaders on both sides need to end the days in a cell in the Hague.

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Together. Let them solve their issues while the world moves the fuck on

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Thunderdome! The eventual solution to all life’s problems.

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They’re going to need a big cell. There’s Putin who’s already been charged. And Assad is worse than any of them in terms of the number killed. Not to mention the ones doing genocide in Sudan (not for the first time).

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