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Man I deleted my account because I didn’t want Musk involved in my newsfeed. I can’t imagine giving that fool direct access to my brain.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Only 15 percent of the electrode-bearing threads implanted in the brain of Neuralink’s first human brain-chip patient continue to work properly, according to a report from The Wall Street Journal.

The adjustments were effective enough to regain and then exceed performance on at least one metric—the bits-per-second (BPS) rate used to measure how quickly and accurately a patient with an implant can control a computer cursor.

He initially asked if Neuralink would perform another surgery to fix or replace the implant, but the company declined, telling him it wanted to wait for more information.

The Journal’s report adds more detail about the thread retraction as Neuralink gears up to surgically implant its chip into a second trial participant.

According to the report, the company hopes to perform the second surgery sometime in June and has gained a green light to do so from the Food and Drug Administration, which oversees clinical trials.

Neuralink, owned by controversial billionaire Elon Musk, believes it can prevent thread movement in the next patient by simply implanting the fine wires deeper into brain tissue.


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Imagine when they put ads directly into your brain.

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A little glimps how it could be…

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The funny thing about this ad is that it’s already lodged deep in my brain and anytime someone says they have a headache I think about it

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All I knew until today was you apply headon directly to your forehead. Why would you do so? If I had to guess, I would’ve said for headaches, but that’s completely an assumption

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Or Musk decides that you don’t need some part of your brain. Or worse, rents it out as server space.

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Don’t worry, the dolphins will save us if it gets that far.

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

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This is the bigger concern. For that matter imagine if a government mandated mind control.

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I’m loving the typo.

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Neuralink, owned by controversial billionaire Elon Musk, believes it can prevent thread movement in the next patient by simply implanting the fine wires deeper into brain tissue. The company is planning on—and the FDA has reportedly signed off on—implanting the threads 8 millimeters into the brain of the second trial participant rather than the 3 mm to 5 mm depth used in Arbaugh’s implantation.

Yeah, “just shove it in deeper” sounds like a brilliant plan.

Maybe it’ll work, maybe it won’t, but if I was that second patient I wouldn’t exactly be feeling super confident about their approach.

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Yeah, “just shove it in deeper” sounds like a brilliant plan.

Does your past experience in brain surgery suggest that this might be a bad idea?

They’re volunteers with next to nothing to lose. This isn’t some healthy person who just wants to play angry birds with their mind. They’re getting an experimental device planted into their brain. I’m sure they’re aware of the risks.

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You’d think somewhere amongst the literal thousands of animals they maimed and killed, they’d have figured out how to prevent a simple mechanical issue like “the electrodes won’t stay in place”

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Like by sticking them deeper?

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There is non-zero risk in every surgery, and this is a major surgery. There is non-zero risk of very very severe consequences: brain infection, stroke being just some. While these risks are low, they are non-zero. The volunteers have the possibility of losing everything.

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And I’m sure they’re aware of that. What are you trying to say here? Abandon development of this technology?

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I think my confidence would be tied to if there were any complications on the monkeys or pigs with going deeper.

My intuition says go as shallow as needed to get the data you need as the deeper you go the more something could go wrong, but as we see here, going shallow also has problems.

I’m assuming they tested different depths on animals, so as long as deeper in the animals didn’t specifically cause problems, I think I’d be fine with it as a solution.

Now, if they didn’t try these depths during the animal trials, well, that’s another matter entirely.

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In an interview with the Journal, Neuralink’s first patient, 29-year-old Noland Arbaugh, opened up about the roller-coaster experience. “I was on such a high and then to be brought down that low. It was very, very hard,” Arbaugh said. “I cried.” He initially asked if Neuralink would perform another surgery to fix or replace the implant, but the company declined, telling him it wanted to wait for more information.

Neuralink isn’t just treating humans like guinea pigs, they’re treating them like disposable guinea pigs.

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The patient fully embraced the Elon propaganda and spouted his praises on the dozens of media interviews he agreed to.

No sympathy for someone who invited a leopard into their house to catch the mice

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If such a person doesn’t deserve sympathy, who does?

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Starving children in Gaza, who will never see their families again because they’re dead

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Yeah, everyone who signs up for experimental medical trials is a stooge.

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You cherry-picked the first part of that paragraph. The end goes like this:

Arbaugh went on to say that he has since recovered from the initial disappointment and continues to have hope for the technology.

And then the next part of his statement is found in the following paragraph:

“I thought that I had just gotten to, you know, scratch the surface of this amazing technology, and then it was all going to be taken away,” he added. "But it only took me a few days to really recover from that and realize that everything I’ve done up to that point was going to benefit everyone who came after me.” He also said that “it seems like we’ve learned a lot and it seems like things are going in the right direction.”

Of course, the goal here is not to have an honest assessment of what happened. . .but to simply choose what we want to further our hatred (justified, IMO) of Musk.

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None of that concerns Neuralink’s treatment of him—just his process of learning to live with it.

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And nothing about what you quoted indicates what he was or was not told about the potential outcomes of the procedure, or how he was treated. Only that he was disappointed with the outcome. Of course he was, of course he wanted it to work out, so of course he was disappointed.

I stand by my point that only the negative part of his statement was cherry-picked out in order to justify shitting on Musk, rather than honestly assessing what happened.

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If there is a reason not to like Musk this isn’t it. Honestly I could care less about some random guy.

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Thank you for showing how much bias is on this website and standing up for it.

People really need to chill out with their preconceived notions.

This website is going to be a shower of shit if it just people circle jerking.

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You could actually read the article. The guy is glad to have helped make some one else’s life better. He doesn’t have brain damage and he is not dead nor is he worse off.

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22 points

Oh boy he’s a currently happy disposable guinea pig, that makes it all better!

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Haters got to hate

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God forbid an adult of sound mind is allowed to decide what to do with his own body.

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Or they want to actually have something that has a chance of working before doing it again…I doubt installing one of these things is a walk in the park and every install carries a high risk … I sure hope patient #2 is getting something with a possible fix…

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