In an interview with the Journal, Neuralink’s first patient, 29-year-old Noland Arbaugh, opened up about the roller-coaster experience. “I was on such a high and then to be brought down that low. It was very, very hard,” Arbaugh said. “I cried.” He initially asked if Neuralink would perform another surgery to fix or replace the implant, but the company declined, telling him it wanted to wait for more information.
Neuralink isn’t just treating humans like guinea pigs, they’re treating them like disposable guinea pigs.
You cherry-picked the first part of that paragraph. The end goes like this:
Arbaugh went on to say that he has since recovered from the initial disappointment and continues to have hope for the technology.
And then the next part of his statement is found in the following paragraph:
“I thought that I had just gotten to, you know, scratch the surface of this amazing technology, and then it was all going to be taken away,” he added. "But it only took me a few days to really recover from that and realize that everything I’ve done up to that point was going to benefit everyone who came after me.” He also said that “it seems like we’ve learned a lot and it seems like things are going in the right direction.”
Of course, the goal here is not to have an honest assessment of what happened. . .but to simply choose what we want to further our hatred (justified, IMO) of Musk.
None of that concerns Neuralink’s treatment of him—just his process of learning to live with it.
And nothing about what you quoted indicates what he was or was not told about the potential outcomes of the procedure, or how he was treated. Only that he was disappointed with the outcome. Of course he was, of course he wanted it to work out, so of course he was disappointed.
I stand by my point that only the negative part of his statement was cherry-picked out in order to justify shitting on Musk, rather than honestly assessing what happened.
You could actually read the article. The guy is glad to have helped make some one else’s life better. He doesn’t have brain damage and he is not dead nor is he worse off.
Oh boy he’s a currently happy disposable guinea pig, that makes it all better!
The patient fully embraced the Elon propaganda and spouted his praises on the dozens of media interviews he agreed to.
No sympathy for someone who invited a leopard into their house to catch the mice
Starving children in Gaza, who will never see their families again because they’re dead
Stop letting this shit head do what ever he wants!
not an elon cuck, @FonsNihilo@lemmy.ca is just pointing out that the TEST SUBJECT HIMSELF has had only good things to say about this implant. i hate ketamine boy as much as you do, but it isnt like musky balls is building these himself, there are real professional engineers doing this, so it working should not be attributed to musk. he came up with the name and the vague idea, thats it.
EDIT: nvm.
In an interview with the Journal, Neuralink’s first patient, 29-year-old Noland Arbaugh, opened up about the roller-coaster experience. “I was on such a high and then to be brought down that low. It was very, very hard,” Arbaugh said. “I cried.” He initially asked if Neuralink would perform another surgery to fix or replace the implant, but the company declined, telling him it wanted to wait for more information.
fuck the neuralink people. all their test subjects are disposable to them, i guess.
He literally said he “was a waste”
And now he’s not a “waste” anymore, right?
He’s now a piece of meat to be used and abused for the egotistical whims of one of the world’s most notorious capitalist parasites.
Yes, good point. These people are desperate, so we should let a wildly irresponsible company, who during animal testing had identified the thread retraction issue and not fixed it, we should let them experiment on desperate humans because fuck them I guess.
Yeah the guy was able to do something cool for a while, but now he’s quickly getting back to where he was and with bonus bits of metal all over his brain and no way to fix the problem.
I don’t know if that’s a trade he or anyone would have made going in.
They need to stop messing around with this Musk “fail fast” approach, that’s not acceptable in medicine. You can’t speed up your research by endangering the most desperate people in society.
When someone claims they want to improve your quality of life, you need to consider the source, especially when it’s Elon Musk. And especially when he wants to screw with your BRAIN.
Your faith in the benevolence of billionaires is adorable but history has shown us that for the most part, billionaires are vain, greedy, brutal sociopaths. Especially Musk, who is an apartheid-loving fascist.
No one has an issue with the notion of creating a technology that allows paralyzed people to control a computer with their mind.
Where people have an issue is that Musk was told multiple times by multiple people that an implant likely will never be 100% feasible because the brain moves around in the skull, making keeping a connection tricky at best and likely impossible. (hence why the threads have retracted)
He’s been told on multiple occasions that a non-invasive tech that is both more reliable and less risky is actually FAR more feasible. But his ego and his hard-on for being “edgy” basically makes him want to do things as “sci fi” as possible because a node that sticks to the side of your head isn’t as cool as an implant (to him).
Nolan would be just as happy. Just as capable. and just as helpful to the research with something less intrusive, but then Musk wouldn’t think of himself as cool.
tl;dr - No one has a problem with the concept. But the invasive way it’s being implemented is 100% because of Musk’s ego driven self-delusion of himself.
Bro, just a few more disabled people sacrificed to the machine and I swear we’ll get it right! Move fast, break things! Technology always good!
Everyone like a week and a half ago pitching a fit over me saying that this is an unethical way to treat disabled people can go fuck themselves, lol.
The dude is fine and actually pretty lucky. Its sad that it stopped working but its not like he died or something.
You have no idea what the long term effects of the rejection are going to be, and neither does the corporation doing this to human beings after killing a bunch of monkeys and still failing.
What’s the alternative? We either don’t create this technology at all or we do and accept the fact that it’s going to involve a lot of trial and error. You don’t just skip all that and jump to the final product. There’s only so much you can test on animals which exactly isn’t the most ethical thing to begin with anyway. At some point you’re going to need to stick it in a human brain.
The first heart transplant recepient died after 18 days. Should we have not done that either?
You do not know if he is going to be ok either. Right now its been positive doesn’t look all that bad. This is a guy who was able to do things he normally would be unable to do.
I think Lemmy just seems to hate Elon Musk and they can’t stand that something positive may of come from this. You can’t know what the future holds but if there first subject died it would look very bad for the company and would likely get some serious attention from the government regulators.
First we had piles of monkeys, now piles of paralyzied people.
I really hope a good lawyer can find some kind of flaw in that liability waver
Man I deleted my account because I didn’t want Musk involved in my newsfeed. I can’t imagine giving that fool direct access to my brain.
