12 points

Isn’t that comparison asinine? I mean… Yeah, no shit. One is a handheld PC and the other isn’t.

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While the Steam Deck is technically a handheld PC, as a Linux enthusiast who’s tried to use the desktop mode for laptoppy things… No it isn’t.

It works in a pinch (well… Not for my job, but I also don’t expect Valve to put lxd into SteamOS), but the comparison to the Switch (which I also own) is much better than comparing it to even a gaming laptop. In fact, if I were the type of person to emulate stuff (which, don’t worry Nintendo, I totally am not), I would say my Steam Deck makes a better switch than my switch. If I’d emulated a Switch to play Mario Kart (which obviously I haven’t) I’d say it was a better experience on my Steam Deck than on my switch.

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While the Steam Deck is technically a handheld PC, as a Linux enthusiast who’s tried to use the desktop mode for laptoppy things… No it isn’t.

Desktop mode is literally just KDE, and you can install whatever OS you want on it anyway. In what way is it not a handheld PC?

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What I’m saying is that the PC comparison simply misses the point, whereas the Switch comparison is a comparison of how the devices are intended to be used (and for the most part actually used). The Steam Deck is not a good device for running a development environment or most of the things one thinks of as “PC tasks.” It’s not designed for that.

One can use it in that way, but one of the biggest differences between the Steam Deck and its “more pc-ish” competitors like the Ally is that Valve has done a lot of work to make desktop mode unnecessary for the vast majority of users. The user experience puts it much more directly in competition with the Switch than with other handheld PCs, and that’s a strength of the Deck, not a weakness.

One can install Linux on a Switch too, at which point it’s basically an ARM-based handheld PC. But a reviewer who reviewed the Switch for its power as a handheld Linux machine would be missing the point too.

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I think they mean functionally.

I know everytime I’ve had to do extended work in desktop mode I’ve had to use a USB mouse and keyboard. Obviously, it’s a handheld PC, but it’s not really designed to replace your laptop.

You could use it as a desktop computer with a dock though, I suppose.

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19 points

They’re competitors on form factor. Actually, the one difference you mention is precisely why I’ll probably be buying a SteamDeck instead of a Nintendo Switch. I can play Nintendo games on both after all.

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2 points

They are only competitors for people who are fairly ignorant. Steam deck comes with the ability to play switch games for free…

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-5 points

Nintendo coming to shut down valve 💀

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-17 points

I mean, I wouldn’t buy into a decade old ecosystem either if I hadn’t already. But by that logic, there is less games on my WiFi router than on the Xbox. Same form factor after all.

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That’s not what form factor means

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Tried to get steredenn working on Steam deck in February. Failed miserably (controls didn’t work).

Works on switch (within it’s limitations of course).

Take that 😂

Btw steredenn is even Linux natively, that’s what made me even more angry.

Edit: What’s with the downvotes? I mean it’s fine but - if I did something wrong or it works since date x, tell me!

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Try switching it to launch the windows version through Proton instead of the Linux version. Loads of games work better that way I’ve found, since a lot of the Linux versions don’t get the same level of support.

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It also works with the major Switch emulators, although maybe you meant that.

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Haha, nice to know but no 😁.

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Btw steredenn is even Linux natively, that’s what made me even more angry.

That’s basically the issue… especially older Linux ports run worse than the Windows version. I hope Valve will eventually consider setting Proton as the default for some games even when they are native, as their ports are usually abandoned and outdated.

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I tried everything the ui is able to to, proton and all, to no avail.

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33 points

Also I can emulate a steamdeck on my desktop without being sued!

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7 points

Why?

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3 points

Because Nintendo are disgustingly anti-consumer.

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37 points

Because the games that run on the Steam Deck are PC games, no emulation required. It’s a joke.

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It’s a joke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe’s_law

OP is also the guy who thinks it is weird to pre-heat your oven. https://fedia.io/m/showerthoughts@lemmy.world/t/763821/Are-the-people-who-read-terms-and-conditions-the-same#comments

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Depending on their Desktop’s architecture it might be required, arm systems do need to utilize CPU emulation to run programs made for x86-64. It’s not usually as involved as emulation of a console platform but it’s emulation no less.

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That’s an embarrassingly small number of games for a PC… a PC should have access to far more games than that. I’m sure that’s just the “verified” games, but it’s pretty dumb to flaunt it like it’s something impressive.

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Definitely just verified, the actual number is easily triple that.

Not to mention even tons of unsupported games work perfectly fine.

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6 points

And then there’s emulation

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As a Lenovo Go user that can access both worlds this is an interesting article to see where I stand in terms of overall access to games. But shouldn’t a Steamdeck have more titles? As far as I know you can’t you also side install Windows for games from other platforms?

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This is just steam titles in the verified program. Protondb has 21k steam games that are reported working, and there’s also non-steam games and emulation.

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