Innovation and privacy go hand in hand here at Mozilla…

Is this the time to drop firefox?

66 points

Drop it for what?

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6 points

Chromium ofc Uhhhh WebKit I guess

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Un-Googled Chromium?

Edit: Guess even FOSS has its limits

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UN googled chromium is pretty good honestly.

But… you will lose lots of privacy options with manifest v3.

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Librefox? Or something else? Don’t know, but since Firefox is often recommended for privacy, I was wondering if this changes things?

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51 points

Is anonymous data collection really that bad? They’ve also been open and explained their whole process. Like surely data collection needs to happen at some level to inform new features and design?

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No it’s not that bad. They indeed are open about it. But it feels like baby steps in the wrong way. I don’t really have an opinion but I was just a bit disappointed about the path they’re going on. Because I don’t see the added value of knowing what users search for. So i was curious about opinions from more educated people.

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opt-in, consent, etc.

mullvad browser is my go to, which is firefox… so i consider it part of the ecosystem of firefoxes

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If they are so interested in asking me for my opinions on new features and design, they can post a survey. Stuff like Mozilla Connect already exists. No need to spy on everything I do (or don’t do).

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28 points

mozilla is on a bad path, but they are still the most privacy respecting (with configuration) option of the big browsers today.

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And the fact they provide those configurations is important in and of itself. Configurable software is falling more and more out of fashion.

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This is disabled if you turn off telemetry in the settings, which users should already be doing anyway. I don’t see this as any worse than what they already do.

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which users should already be doing anyway.

Not necessarily. If you want to support the software it’s generally a good idea to leave it on as it helps the devs find bugs and what features are needed and what existing features that are used.

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Why would I disable telemetry when it can give valuable information for development purposes?

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Are we ignoring the part where you can disable it the same way you always could?

They even when out of their way to assure you if you already had telemetry disabled, absolutely nothing is changing for you and no data is being collected now.

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Still hate default firfox build u cant disable telemetry in about: config. Gotta go with librewolf.

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I don’t really understand what search topics have to do with improving the browser. The blog post doesn’t make that clear at all.

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Agreed. If it was for a search engine, it would make some sense, but the browser, WTF for?

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Because the lived experience of many users is the browser integrates with the search engine to give you predictive suggestions as you type, identify images, translate, etc.

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That’s cool, the thing is that Mozilla does not have a search engine. What’s the use for them? Benchmarking other engines? Knowing engine rankings?

What you mention in your comment, they already do now.

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This is my question as well. I am happy to leave it on if they can provide a clearer explanation of what my data will be used for, but for now it will remain off.

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I’m not a fan of automated data collection, regardless of the reason. I see the merit, though, but I won’t allow it. The post is very clear about the preserved anonymity of the collected data, which is good, and on how to easily opt out, which is great.

This statement, however, was a bit strange. Almost like they are being flippant on local laws. Since I know this isn’t the case here, they should have phrased it different. (Emphasis mine)

Your search activities are handled with the same level of confidentiality as all other data regardless of any local laws surrounding certain health services.

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They definitely could have phrased this better. I think what they mean is that their level of confidentiality meets or exceeds local laws.

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That’s what I also understood. It’s just an odd, almost incorrect, phrasing. Unless our understanding is wrong, and they actually mean that they won’t follow the local laws if said laws require them to violate privacy.

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