111 points

I swear they haven’t added a single fucking feature that is worth anything. Every single thing they do makes their product worse.

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13 points

I use tidal, and the only thing I miss from Spotify is the ability to transfer the music I’m listening to the PC or smartphone

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11 points

I have many friends that complain about these things, that noticed the exact same pattern as you.

And yet, every last single time I’ve ask them “Have you looked into using a different service? Maybe try one?” they mumble out a noncommittal response and never do.

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6 points

The question is whether it bothers someone enough to switch, and I cant really say thats the case for me. Because copying the playlists over and the additional price increase (losing the family plan) are too annoying tbh.

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-1 points

This is it for me. I’m on a family plan so I don’t pay for premium and I’ve over 300 songs in a favourite playlist plus probably 100 odd albums saved. That’s a lot for me to try and transfer over.

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2 points

It’s because the things they don’t like aren’t big enough to switch and get new playlists etc.

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2 points

I’ve tried amazon music google music and Spotify over the years. Spotify had by far the best library for me. The others were missing tonnes of incredibly big bands albums.

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1 point

Man I just got Spotify because these two artists I got into don’t have bandcamp so it’s really hard to actually get files. Not even piracy worked. They’re on every streaming platform though.

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2 points

I’m still bewildered by them changing the “Artists” tab in “Your Library” to show artists you follow (for event notifications) rather than just showing alphabetically, the artists in your library.

Its made the saved library useless for me. Once you have so much music it just becomes ridiculous to group them by album rather than artist. It feels like such an obvious thing that that is how the function should work but no, they insist on trying to make their music streaming service into some kind of social media-music streaming hybrid. Idiots.

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72 points

I stopped paying for and using spotify when they a. renewed their contract with Joe Rogan b. changed their music payment policy so that if you aren’t trending, you make no money.

Fuck Spotify.

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if you aren’t trending, you make no money

What now?

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23 points

No payment for sub-1000 streams/year

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14 points

To be fair, that equates to just above 3 USD per year if the numbers from the other post are correct.

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4 points

In total per artist or per album or song or what?

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4 points

Seems low tbh

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61 points

Don’t use Spotify. Use Tidal, Apple Music, or just pirate and support authors other ways.

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26 points

I switched to Tidal a few weeks ago, primarily because of lossless streaming, but also fuck Spotify for your price hikes. Not going back.

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18 points

How’s the artist selection? I find a lot of stuff on Spotify that is a bit niche and I wondering if they have it. I tried searching the catalog which they say you can do but not before you sign up for their free trial which I’m not willing to

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5 points

So far I’ve found everything I looked for, and a few new ones too. Their app features for lyrics and other songs you might like work great. Admittedly, I’m an old metal head who loves singing to a song at the top of the voice, out of tune of course, so I might not be skirting the kinds of niches you like.

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3 points

I find there are a few niche artists/songs that arnt on tidal, but it still had a majority as well as some new options of the same genre

Imo spotify had way better playlists (a lot of specific user created ones are great) but u can just transfer the playlist to tidal with a site

I was using tidal and spotify for a bit, as tidal works with my dj software, but they just added a new pay teir for using it for those softwares :/

Overall i still used spotify more than tidal but i didn’t have a bad time on tidal

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4 points

I did the same. Paying $11 a month and getting lossless has been a big plus. There were a few songs that were unavailable from my liked songs when moving to Tidal but I also had noticed several songs on my Spotify were unavailable as well too.

My only gripe so far is the Android app drains my battery more than Spotify did, even in the lowest streaming quality.

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15 points

What happens at the y-axis is pure magic.

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Can also recommend Qobuz which allegedly pays even more than tidal. And it also has real losless audio, instead of whatever Tidal is doing.

And you can even buy FLAC files from them, without DRM. Or use tools which you can find on the internet, where you can download the flac files ‘for free’ (you still need a subscription).

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9 points

No wonder deezer lacks most of my beloved artists.

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6 points

Or, continue to use Spotify but use xManager on android and spicetify on pc. This will give you the premium experience (and more!) without paying a single penny.

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I gave xManager a go, and while it doesn’t have ads interrupting your listening, it does still have all the Spotify pop up ads trying to get you to upgrade to premium. It’s fine when listening, but selecting what you’re listening to is still irritating.

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3 points

that’s strange, I’ve never had that

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1 point

My premium Spotify account has resulted in me buying tickets and merch from artists I had never heard of. What’s wrong with that?

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3 points

how do you need premium for that

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3 points

Yep after first releases and concerts, the only people benefitting from the music are the distributors who deserve nothing for the effort the artist put in.

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-5 points

The distributors are the only people doing any work and providing a service after the artist walks out of the recording studio.

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They are not the talent providing the work. They are skimming off talent. They are riding on someone else’s talent. They are the very definition of parasites. They would have no job if there were no talent. Meanwhile the talent can find other ways to sell their work.

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3 points

I’m loving tidal. Been a few months now.
I’m finding so much more awesome music now. Spotify seemed to get stuck in suggestions where I went “yeh, I guess that’s kinda similar, but that’s not actually what I like about those artists”.

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2 points

Deezer exists.

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1 point

Wait, so we all hate, or should hate Spotify for the low support for artists, but now that I think about it, there is nothing stopping artists from putting their work in the other platforms as well, are they becoming more rich because of it and we just should go with whichever offers the best service for us?

Don’t be harsh on me, I am not defending Spotify at all, just a dumb realization while seeing this graph 😆

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I have no idea on the numbers, but given just how huge Spotify is compared to the others, I wonder if record labels just don’t see the worth in additionally posting to the other non major platforms like Tidal. Sure it pays ~3x more but it likely has ~50x less users.

Edit: I just wanted tildes before my numbers, I put a backslash before them to cancel them out as formatting codes, but now it just renders as <sub></sub>. If anyone can tell me how I should fix this please tell me

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58 points

And don’t forget that Spotify can only handle around 150 songs in the queue. It doesn’t matter how big a playlist is, it will start repeat after a while. The proposed solution by spotify itself is to just deactivate shuffle and start on different songs in large playlist. It’s absolutely ridiculous. It bothers thousands of people but they won’t fix it. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Option-to-have-a-true-shuffle/idi-p/4880594

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What? Only 150? Is it some unoptimized list of their in-house song objects? I don’t understand how it can be the inefficient. Please tell me they just need to use an array and this isn’t them doing that.

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4 points

I’ve read somewhere some time ago that they generally prefer the songs/files that are already cached somewhere close to the user to reduce costs for traffic whenever the user leaves the choice to Spotify

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5 points

Spicetify has a true shuffle extension

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1 point

But why would i need an extension for that; id much rather they get rid of the smart shuffle (legit the most annoying fucking thing on the app, or just a toggle to keep it off) and fix the shuffle on their own

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fair enough, I just wanted to share that the option is there for those who really want it

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1 point

Anything for Android/iOS?

I can’t recall the last time I used Spotify on desktop lol.

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2 points

no unfortunately, xManager has Spotify premium features (except download) but no extra features

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39 points

Alternative:

Your whole queue is gone and I’ll just stop playing after this song

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My queue disappearing is my number one issue with Spotify. It happens at the most inconvenient time, after I have spent ages getting it all together. I usually give up after that.

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