22 points

The fact that consoles still deal with ‘console war’ bullcrap is exactly why console gamers continue to lose out.

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They withheld cross-play for "reasons’ for 10-15 years… they have zero respect for the user. I just wanted to game with my friends when I was younger but now fuck you. At least that got fixed, but their mentality has not. Make a product, make it good, and people pick what they need based on WHAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED.

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Make a product, make it good

I hypothesize that if this worked, Xbox would be outselling right now. From a features standpoint, Xbox has been on the ball for years trying to improve their platform. Backwards compatibility, a cheap 1080p console to go along with their 4K flagship, 1440p support from day one of this generation instead of taking nearly two years to put it in, Xbox Adaptive Controller and Copilot for accessibility, Series X|S having Xbox One controller compatibility, replaceable controller batteries so that slow controller death isn’t an issue, Microsoft Rewards exists to get stuff like Xbox giftcards for just playing games and typing shit into Bing, a fully-featured Chromium-based browser (meaning you can do pretty much anything on there that you could do on a normal browser, like GeForce Now or browser games like this (and yes, it works with the Xbox controller on the console), Gamepass (specifically Ultimate, which comes with hundreds of games on its own, EA Play Basic, a bunch of stuff for Riot Games games, game streaming, “perks” like game DLC, movies, and trials for services, and more point-gaining opportunities for MS Rewards), and on top of all of that, you can pay $20 for developer access and install emulators for pretty much any console Xbox 360 or below.

On the PlayStation end, they also have a lot of great features, like the DualSense controller (built-in controller microphone is a super nice-to-have, the DualSense haptics are sick as fuck when they get used to the fullest, and they’ve got gyro functionality for console users wanting to play with gyro aim in competitive shooters), the fancy PS+ guides feature, the most high-end VR headset on the market, and I really appreciate them not using a proprietary expansion format that completely fucks people all the way from launch until like a couple of weeks ago when Seagate exclusivity runs out finally, but that’s about where my praise of the platform itself ends (Edit: The monthly PS+ games are also way better than the XBLG games, which is excellent for people who don’t want the Netflix-style subscriptions but do pay the online fee).

The real value to people seems to come pretty much just from what games are on the platform. So,

and people pick what they need based on WHAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED.

they actually are. People just wanna be able to play the cool new games, and Xbox hasn’t had any in a long time. Starfield might actually be the first game since the Xbox One where a large amount of people are pissed off that it’s exclusive to Xbox, whereas PlayStation gets game after game that Xbox gamers would really like to have. Hence, exactly why they bought Bethesda and made Starfield exclusive.

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Yeah, they can’t have that. That’s bad for business. It’s no wonder the PC has gained market share steadily for two decades.

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13 points

Xbox has ads on the home screen. Playstation only has ads when hovering over the store.

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23 points

No way, you must be kidding. Ads on the home screen sounds disgusting.

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Yeah, there are literally ads everywhere on the screen and to me feels cluttered compared to the simple row of games PS5 has.

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11 points

If Starfield (and to a lesser extent Fable) is a success, you can combine that with Xbox having the cheaper option “Series S”, and I think Microsoft and Sony will be far more on par at the end of this generation.

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I was hoping Xbox would be even more aggressive with the Series S pricing given its downsides, in my region they actually charged a lot more than the advertised 299 USD, even after a not so good exhange rate, taxes etc.

Our local currency has fallen a bit more since so it is around par, but 2 years after launch and it’s still 2/3 the price of the Series X.

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You’re right, I think they should have definitely priced the new 1TB model at $299 and dropped the 512GB to $249.

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They just increased the price for the Series X, so the Series S is probably also affected similarly, so they couldn’t cut the price at this time.

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1 point

That would have been a great pricepoint.

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Fable was the singular reason I bought a Series S. Otherwise I’d still be using my One and my PS5.

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As a PC gamer I have exactly zero incentive to buy an Xbox. I hope they never renege on releasing every Xbox exclusive simultaneously on PC.

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5 points

Xbox i think really only appeals to people without a PC

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I bought the OG Xbox and haven’t looked back, despite having PCs powerful enough to run AAA games over the years. I just prefer console gaming and don’t want to deal with the baggage of a PC.

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7 points

Comfort of my couch + TV on my Series X far outweighs whatever improvements sitting at a desk provides.

Xbox comes with comfort, and to me that is priceless

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I game on PC but I understand the appeal of an Xbox. GPUs have been insanely expensive, and while not necessarily hard, building a PC can still be an overwhelming rabbit hole to research as you try to find the best configurations and deals, and even though it’s improved a lot, PCs are still more prone to messing up since more configurations are harder to test.

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You really cannot take Microsoft at face value on any of this. They will say whatever it takes to make this acquisition happen. As to most the console wars. What does that really mean? They’re in 3rd place, sure. But do you need to be in 1st for it to be profitable?

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