no one fucking told me about states banning RCV during all that yapping on here about how i should VOTE THIRD PARTY OR ELSE IM COMPLICIT in the DNCs CRIMES

it may or may not be joever, very blackpilled at this moment

edit it’s actually 10 states. 5 in the past two months.

64 points

Union busting

Rolling back regulations

The list goes on…

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A small correction:

Rolling back regulations that don’t benefit their agenda

They’re pretty fucking happy to introduce new ones and leave existing ones alone when it serves to fuck over the average citizen or LGBTQ+ community.

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Those things are evil but I don’t see how they’re anti-democratic.

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Union busting undermines the democratic co-determination in the company. However, for an American it is probably shocking that this does exist at all (at least in civilized countries). 😉

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A policy that constricts the enfranchisement of the general public is anti-democratic.

If, every year, you introduce a set of laws that makes felons out of half your political opposition, you quickly create for yourself a one party monopoly.

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Making felons out of your opposition through… deregulation and union busting? Huh?

Also felons should be able to vote, even when they’re in prison. The fact that they can’t is undemocratic.

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States have banned ranked choice voting??? wtf why???

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ostensible answer:

“We believe in the one person, one vote system of elections that our country was founded upon,” Missouri state Sen. Ben Brown, the ballot measure’s sponsor, said in an interview.

Brown and other critics of ranked choice voting contend the system is confusing, and he said there are numerous instances in which voters didn’t end up ranking their choices.

real answer: republicans don’t win as much when rcv is in place.

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I hate slogans like “one person, one vote” or “innocent until proven guilty” because so many people treat them as principles in themselves rather catchy names for principles that are much more nuanced than those names suggest. It doesn’t matter how many “votes” a person has the ability to cast so long as everyone is given an equally opportunity to influence the outcome of an election.

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Another one I hate is “Let me ask a simple yes or no question:” Proceeds to ask a very complex question with a lot of nuance

Then, when the person tries to clarify the person asking just says “I just want a yes or a no.”

Both parties do it, and it’s just scoring political points every time.

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Yes as long as it isnt one person 8 votes another person 9. Although, the electoral college somewhat is that anyway… A vote in one state is not equivalent to a vote in another.

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To paraphrase Reservoir Dogs: Senator Brown sounds an awful lot like Senator Shit…

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Because with ranked choice people can vote for Jane the Socialist but also pencil in a secondary, begrudging vote for Joe Biden. They want lefties to split their vote. They want a vote for the Greens to be a loss for the Democrats. Ranked choice kind of negates that.

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Because it’s progress. Shockingly, the five states that have banned it are red.

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All ten states that have banned it are red, and the ones that have it on the upcoming ballot are as well.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/05/nx-s1-4969563/ranked-choice-voting-bans

Edit: added link

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If you can rank your votes and have multiple options available you actually have to stand for something in order for people to vote for you.

Being against another party is not enough in such a system since there are more options available.

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Can you guess which party that holds a tenuous grasp over their constituents via fear would not want them having the option of voting for other people that might more closely align with their ideals and morals?

I mean, technically it’s both parties at this point, but Republicans know that RCV will be the absolute death of the current version of their party which has devolved into little more than a reactionary ultranationalist faction.

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Why would they ban ranked choice? Oh right, because they’d absolutely never get elected if they couldn’t cheat with the current gerrymandered hell they’ve built.

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They’re banning it because it’s confusing. We are literally too stupid to have a representative government.

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It’s not confusing at all. They’re bullshitting us.

There is no filter through which stupid votes can result in smart goverment. If we make it less representative it just becomes more corrupt.

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Forgot to add:

  • The Electoral College
  • Congressional apportionment
  • The Senate
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thanks i made this in a rush and definitely could have put more details :)

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EC is there for a reason, it’s just not used for that reason

Imagine a candidate loyal to one of America’s enemies was voted in. The EC is there to stop that

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Didn’t work in 2016…

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it’s just not used for that reason

Yeah, some where along the line they gained party loyalty

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Imagine a candidate loyal to one of America’s enemies was voted in.

A candidate who won the state-weighted national popularity contest would only be “one of America’s enemies” if the weighting was wildly off. Even then, Said candidate wouldn’t be the enemy of all Americans, just enemy of the states with the underweight majority.

And if half of America hates the other half? Then every president is loyal to one of America’s enemies.

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There’s another option: at least half of America is incredibly ignorant about their candidate.

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Trump is a Russian asset

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Yeah, imagine…

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It OBVIOUSLY doesn’t work by your own definition

Maybe you were being sarcastic

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A constiutional monarch is a better defence against that

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Absolutely. The problem with modern politicians is that they simply don’t own enough real estate.

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It’s a failed democratic republic that’s sliding into fascism.

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fascism is an amoral slide tackle to democratic republics

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