Myers, who says he’s a licensed security guard, was sitting in his car Wednesday to conduct “overwatch” while his son trains because “he has seen numerous crimes occur” in the parking lot, according to the probable cause statement.

The surveillance footage shows Myers approach the teens with a gun in his hand, point it directly at them and then move quickly toward them, police said. One of the boys pulls a BB gun out of his pocket, lays it on the ground and extends his arms out as if to show he has nothing in his hands, police said in the document.

“Immediately after … it is clear that he has been shot because he abruptly jerks his body away from Myers and falls to the ground,” the document says.

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Myers said that when he first saw the boys, he thought one of them had a “Glock” by his side and that they were about to commit an armed robbery.

He seems to be okay with open carry so I wonder why he thought they were going to commit a robbery.

The 17-year-old shot and killed was identified as Hazrat Ali Rohani

Oh. He was brown.

Also, this guy is why an armed society is absolutely not a polite society. More people carrying around guns means more dipshits carrying them.

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He seems to be okay with open carry so I

Open carry for my, but not for thee.

This is like a few months ago, when a gun rights advocate realized that “every body having the right of having guns” also included LGTB and they all lost their shared braincell.

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Shithead Tucker Carlson did a piece a while ago fear mongering that militant trans people were arming themselves and that they should not be allowed to.

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Conservatives when someone says people should have to go through a psychological examination and be proven to be mentally well to get a gun: 😡

Conservatives when trans people have guns: “Th-they’re mentally ill! They shouldn’t have guns since they aren’t psychologically fit!”

I think it’s cuz they realize constantly having fantasies of someone doing wrong that justifies you to shoot them and being extremely narcissistic, irrationally hateful towards certain groups, and paranoid makes them unfit to handle a weapon.

That being said, I like oppressed groups being able to arm themselves, and I don’t trust the conservatives who have run where I live for centuries to enforce gun laws equally, so I prefer to keep my way-too-lenient gun laws… since I’m moving to a large urban area soon though, the only thing I’ll need a rifle to defend against is the landlord (haha just kidding, my landlord won’t suck… I hope…)

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Ronald Reagan and the Repubs when black people are holding firearms.

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Ronald Reagan and the Repubs when black people are holding firearms.

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act

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That’s because they’re into guns, not the right to self defense.

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The problem is that they will use lethal force in defense of their pride/ego. They will simply escalate any dumb situation just because they can

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Oh. He was brown.

Was there any doubt?

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Behold, Libertarians and 2nd Amendment nutters: Your “good guy with a gun”. Aren’t you proud of yourselves?

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What do you expect them to say? That they’re proud of this guy? Even though he’s clearly a madman?

I know IRL gun nuts, and none of them would identify with this person. Also, none of them subscribe to the fallacy/straw-man of a “good guy with a gun”. The ones who carry concealed would remind you that they are carrying for themselves, not for you. If you find an active shooter in a mall, you can count on them… to run away.

Skillful gun nuts know that shooting defensively is never worth the legal hassle unless it saves your life (or a family member’s life).

The shooter in this article is nothing like any of the gun nuts I’ve ever met. This shooter is another Kyle Rittenhouse, someone anxious for a chance to kill a person and get away with it under the excuse of defense.

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I could be considered a gun nut myself but I will not pretend that this behavior is some abnormal outlier. There are plenty, plenty of American gun owners who think like this man does, they just haven’t had the opportunity for their malformed amygdala to get someone killed.

You mention Rittenhouse but he’s a gun culture hero. Zimmerman and the like, all heroes. People who get to use their gun to lay down the law like the Earp posse are generally seen as heroes when they don’t completely fuck up like this guy, they’re not shunned as short-sighted and reckless.

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A set of excellent counterpoints. I’d also point out that “gun nut” is quite different than “2nd Amendment nutter”. You’re into guns. Maybe the mechanics, maybe the design aspect, maybe you enjoy shooting as a hobby, maybe all of the above and more. That’s fine, if you’re also a responsible gun owner who secures their weapon, does not leave it loaded when off your person, does not point it at something they don’t intend to destroy, and so on and so forth.

A “2nd Amendment nutter” thinks the 2nd Amendment absolves them of responsibility.

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So, you know responsible gun owners - note I didn’t mention them. I’m happy they exist. But you don’t know every gun owner, or even a significant fraction of them, and if you believe nobody with a gun subscribes to the “good guy with a gun” fallacy then you’re delusional.

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Yes, that’s what I expect. And then for the shooter to appear on podcasts and political rallies

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I know IRL gun nuts, and none of them would identify with this person.

Maybe not, but when they resist any and all legislation to control access to guns, don’t support mandatory training, red flag laws, etc, they accept that people like this can legally get them. That’s an acceptable tradeoff for them. Maybe your gun nut friends support reasonable legislation, it’s possible I suppose.

Ultimately this is no true scotsman territory I think.

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This shooter is another Kyle Rittenhouse, someone anxious for a chance to kill a person and get away with it under the excuse of defense.

Wow, tell me you don’t know anything about the Kyle Rittenhouse story without saying it directly, lmao.

I love how the Rittenhouse story has become such an effective litmus test to easily distinguish between honest left-wingers/progressives, and ones who are either gullible enough to swallow the narrative that is clearly disproven by all of the evidence (up to and including publicly-available direct video evidence) and testimony, or malicious and dishonest enough to cling to said narrative out of solidarity for their political ‘team’, knowing that it is categorically false.

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All Kyle had to do to not have any of that happen is not show up. The odds of that dramatically increased when he decided to show up with a gun where he knew a bunch of people, some of whom would would be armed, would be out in force and opposing his views.

Much like a lone women wandering late at night through a crime-ridden part of town getting raped, he may not have done anything wrong, but his bad judgement led to the expected consequences. And before we talk about defending his workplace, there’s a reason many places say to not try to stop robberies - the insurance claim is far cheaper than the cost of most outcomes of trying to stop the thefts, even the relatively positive outcomes.

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This is “licensed security guard” with a gun.

Just diet cop.

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Hahaha no, he’s not even a “diet” cop (but I love that term), though he clearly fuckin thinks he is. I actually took a security guard training course when I was a teenager, and this motherfucker did everything they tell you not to do. If he saw a suspected threat, he should have called the cops and gotten to safety, according to the training. Even with a gun, you’re not supposed to use it. We got that training because guards who can wear firearms get paid more, and the agency training is would make more on us if we had our certs.

It was just middle-manager levels of power tripping, with a gun.

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No, no, if we had removed all regulations, like the libertarians want, this gentleman would have voluntarily formed a non-aggression pact with the teens and not shot any. The real problem is the regulations and laws preventing him from forming a pact. If we remove all laws and taxes it will work.

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Carries a gun

Violently terrified of others carrying guns

This guy was never not going to murder someone.

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Psss… Let me let you in on a secret. It’s not just this guy.

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It’s always the ones you most suspect

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Isn’t that the main argument? “I have a gun because you have a gun… And they want guns because we have guns”. It’s rednecks version of “assured mutual destruction”.

The insidious part is a lot of people who don’t want guns end up getting them because those who want them have them.

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Seems like a damn good reason to get a poverty pony.

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Myers, who says he’s a licensed security guard, was sitting in his car Wednesday to conduct “overwatch” while his son trains because “he has seen numerous crimes occur” in the parking lot, according to the probable cause statement.

His son was taking a jiu-jitsu class next door. This guy is like peak gravy seals/tacticool wannabe.

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Steven Seagal clone

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Wow, the article even has a section detailing why the boys were there with BB guns:

The two surviving teens told police that they were at the store to return or exchange Hazrat Ali Rohani’s BB gun because he was having some issues with it, according to the police report. One of them also said that he had his own BB gun with him and brought it along so employees could check out a “magazine issue” he was having.

Myers straight up murdered the kid. Fortunately the article also points out he was arrested and the video evidence shows clear 2nd degree manslaughter, so he’s going to jail, losing his guns, and most likely won’t watch his kid grow up. His kid has a chance to grow up without a bad influence in his life now, so that’s good.

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