Hi, everybody! Sorry for the rant! I’m Cross-Posting this from my other account on Beehaw, because I’d love to hear others’ thoughts on this. I don’t see much discussion about this and I’m really curious if maybe I’m viewing this all wrong.
I’m just posting this as a combination of question and vent. Does anyone else here feel frustrated by the current ethical dilemmas of purchasing games from certain companies? My partner is very tuned into the various ethical mishaps happening in the world and keeps me apprised of which companies are doing shitty stuff and which people/companies I should stop supporting. This is important to remember, but it is also frustrating to see how many companies out there are doing bad things.
This is a very “first world problem,” but it’s frustrating just how many games out there look cool, but I can’t play them because it’d be giving those companies/people money. The biggest examples are Activision Blizzard, J.K. Rowling, and Wizards of the Coast. I think Baldurs Gate 3, for example, looks so awesome, but I don’t feel comfortable playing it because my partner has alerted me that some of that money would go to Wizards. I feel somewhat frustrated that the discussion around these issues has evaporated when the games are released; it’s as though people stopped caring about the bad things these companies/people did. To be entirely honest, I’m not sure if I myself would be able to keep myself accountable if my partner doesn’t remind me of it; I think I may have bought the games like everyone else because of how fun they look, and how much they remind me of games I grew up on.
On a similar note, as my partner is working on becoming a game developer, he follows the state of game development and tells me about it, which seems bleak. I mourn the old studios that I used to have a lot of enjoyment for, like BioWare and the others that EA ate up.
Thanks for reading all of this. :) I wish things were more hopeful, I suppose. My partner urges me to support indie developers, so I’m trying to move in that direction. Does anyone have any recommendations on staying hopeful, given the current state of entertainment?
TL;DR: I’m frustrated by the current largely-unethical state of the games industry and want to know how I can regain some hope about it.
Terrible people have produced magnificent “content” since Oog and Tharg first painted on cave walls. I love the work of Wagner, even though I’m not a Nazi. Fan of Lovecraft even though his standards are equally shitty. I adore American Psycho even though B E Ellis comes across as an utter tool. Picasso was a womanizing prick, boardering on paedophile. Great painter though.
Feel free to vote with your wallet, but if you become too sensitive to the moral and ethical views of people, or “some” of the people working for companies, you’ll miss out on some masterpieces.
Having said that, I won’t buy any Kelloggs products because fuck Kelloggs. Does that make me a hypocrite? Maybe a little, but we all need our lines in the sand.
I know this is a bit of a meme, but there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. It’s entirely a question of where you choose to draw the line.
This applies to a lot of causes/principles I care about, but to illustrate with my stance on LGBT issues:
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If a company openly donates directly to anti-LGBT causes? I’d boycott them, no further questions needed.
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If a high ranking member of a company donates to anti-LGBT causes using their own (likely unethically obtained) funds? I’d boycott for sure unless their product/service is an absolute necessity.
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If a company is headquartered in a state/country that is anti-LGBT? I would definitely boycott as long as there is a suitable alternative.
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If a company pays/employs people who are anti-LGBT? Gosh, well, that’s probably most companies. Is it possible to account for how every individual employee/beneficiary chooses to spend the money they make for their work? I have no capacity to make choices at this point.
Those are my lines.
When I shop at the supermarket, I have to accept that there are likely people working there somewhere with horrible beliefs whose income is financially supported by my patronage. When I buy clothing, I have to accept that there are probably products I’ve purchased that are made through exploitative labor practices. When it is within my means to spend capital more ethically, I will. But it is absolutely not possible for me to ensure that every dollar I spend goes to a worthwhile cause or to someone who deserves it.
The Good Place really illustrated this point well in the later episodes. In the modern world where everything is so much more interconnected than ever before, we need to redefine traditional ethics to better consider what is practical for normal people. And the worse your circumstances are, the harder it is to have that luxury of choice.
You illustrate your point very well, and with it you’ve helped me make a more clear decision. Your emphasis on the ability to choose, the luxury of multiple options, has clarified for me that I do in fact have quite a few options. I can chop out Acti-Blizz, JK Rowling, and WotC and still have tons of great sources of media. I have so many other choices.
With clothing as you’ve stated - and I think food applies here as well - I don’t have much in the way of choice unless I want to make my own clothes/grow my own food - and I do not have the skills for that.
But with video games, which themselves are a luxury, I can stand to be a little more picky. I can always pirate the games later :)
If you were actually rigorous with this sort of attitude you wouldn’t be able to buy anything, not just your favorite video games. Just relax and enjoy yourself, you only get a tiny bit of time here.
Thank you for your comfort. I think I’m trying to hold myself to realistic standards. When I can choose, and the options are many - such as with media - I feel I can cut out the options which don’t align with my values. As I stated elsewhere, I cannot hold myself to this standard with food and clothing. The ethically-pure options are too limited to result in a realistic and affordable lifestyle for me.
Jesus… if you beat yourself up this much over games, how do you deal with stuff that really matters. Do you moralize over the gas you buy? Do you consider the cable company who gives you the internet connection, when you have only one option? Do you freak out over every single piece of food you purchase, and the supermarket you buy it from, and the television you watch?
Or do you only wax endlessly on video games? Play what you want to, or don’t, but you’re putting way too much thought into this, and if that’s what you want to do, you’ve made your choice, but then perhaps you need to stop buying almost all video games, and read up on crunch, because almost every video game is made at the expense of their employees, and their mental health.
You do you.
As for me, I’ll continue to support companies who I think make a good product, and not avoid stuff like Hogwarts Legacy, or Balder’s Gate, because I realize the majority of the money I spend to pay for those games go to the developers who worked extremely hard to give fans something special. Because you won’t hurt the big companies, but you definitely will destroy the developer and the company that made the game with that attitude.
Piracy.
Haha, this is a fair response. I’m considering it for the companies that make me feel more icky, but whose games seem really fun.
I’d just like to share my perspective on the piracy front, please don’t pirate things and then act like you’re doing justice. Just pirate things to pirate them. Or I mean, do whatever you want, I just personally find it tiresome seeing people acting like a messiah because they pirated a AAA game.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone view themselves as a morale better because they pirated a game, rather they just either couldn’t afford it or didn’t want to pay a company they didn’t agree with.
I was scrolling through everyones incredibly true facts about consuming most things under capitalism is probably unethical, pretty much everything is sourced unethically, and thinking there’s no solution here to this problem
Then I read this and went, “Oh yeah, i forgot about that”, unlike most stuff we consume you can actually just pirate this and then tada, you’ve resolved your pocket lining issue.
