“The ban was imposed by the Trump administration”
But please, gun enthusiasts, tell me again about how Biden is going to take away all of your guns any day now whereas Trump is 2A all the way.
Mind control, space lasers… is there anything Soros and his evil Jewish cabal can’t do?
Diaper Don, the “Take away their guns and worry about the due process later” guy? That Donald Trump, right?
The comment was in this context:
If memory serves, the Obama administration (the one far right was screaming for 8 years was going to take away all the guns) specifically looked at bump stocks and said they were legal.
Trump freaked out at the Las Vegas shooting and pushed the ban ASAP.
"Take away their guns and worry about the due process later”
Donald Trump.
Quoting that anti-constitution anti-gun president got me banned from a libertarian subreddit back in the day. I made it very clear I was against his position on blatantly violating the Fourth Amendment. I guess they were just extremely triggered by the quote?
Biden and the dems are not 2a friendly…but neither is any repub or trumpers. Both are true.
Rich people want to take away the ability of us poor commoners to resist their oppression and defend ourselves.
Yup, we all fight eaxh other for table scraps while they eat the full meal. Our fight shouldn’t be us vs each other. It should be us vs them.
Edit: who the fuck is down voting this lol
In that case, it’s weird that you’re telling that to me and not the Trump person who replied to me who suggested the opposite.
Shouldn’t you be replying to them?
Here, I’ll help: https://lemmy.world/comment/10631441
Let me know when you’ve replied to them about it. (I won’t be holding my breath.)
Apparently the way Lemmy’s link creation works makes all first-level replies to your comment the same link AS your comment. So, in providing the link ‘to be helpful’, you only linked to your own comment. That’s not actually helpful and so it doesn’t come across in the best way.
Bumpstocks are oldshit in comparison to “super safeties.” They push the trigger forward after you shoot. So you just squeeze, and you get quick individual trigger pulls at close to an automatic rate. It’s also easier to aim. Also, it’s a tiny piece you can 3d print. Also, I’m NOT linking it.
The ban on bump stocks was implemented using the Firearms’ Owners Protection Act of 1986. Which was signed into law by Reagan (funny how a failed assassination will change things).
The text at issue is
SEC. 109. AMENDMENT OF NATIONAL FIREARMS ACT. (a) Section 58450)) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845(b)) is amended by striking out “any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun,” and inserting in lieu thereof “any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun,”
IMO the majority in this decision is choosing to blatantly ignore the text of the act which was clearly chosen to future-proof for any advancement which would result in an effortless high rate of fire such as bump stock and super safety. Instead they are insisting that Congress must amend the law to include specific parts which of course is a losing battle as there will always be a new part that achieves an effortless high rate of fire.
Now where one could argue that this ruling is correct is the accepted definition of a machinegun requires a single trigger action.
Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger
Personally I think the laws should be amended to define weapons and munitions by their result (high or continuous rate of fire) instead of their form or function. As it stands, someone could create a weapon that simply fires continuously but does not resemble a gun in any other way. Would such a weapon be a machinegun if it doesn’t even have a trigger?
I think the dissenting opinion was more inline with the intent of FOPA.
They don’t need to ban specific parts, and in fact they shouldn’t. They could ban anything designed to accelerate rate of fire.
I don’t think anyone is going to build a triggerless pseudo-machine gun. You could build one where, when you close the action, it fires until it’s out of ammo, but that’s not very controllable. See also: slamfire.
They don’t need to ban specific parts, and in fact they shouldn’t. They could ban anything designed to accelerate rate of fire.
That’s exactly what they should do. But SCOTUS seems to think that the bump stock cannot be banned because there is no law about bump stocks specifically.
Bump stock still requires single function of the trigger. Might want to research how it actually works.
The entire logic of the Court’s opinion rests on the fact that bump stocks still use a seperate trigger action per shot. They just cause the trigger to automatically trigger against a stationary finger instead of the shooter needing to manually actuate their trigger finger.
Is this an obtusely litteral reading of a law that was clearly intended to be more broadly interpreted? Probably. But it is a reading with a majority support on the court, so we are stuck with it until congress amends the law.
Isn’t it that the trigger is squeezed once and the recoil causes the crock to bounce back which results in another trigger action? Even though there is only one action by the shooter, it would seem to be multiple trigger actions.
I contend that what a bump stock does is make the trigger the entire front half of the gun and your finger is merely a passive mechanical part. Like, you could replace your finger with a bent fork glued onto the bump stock and it would still function as intended. Your finger becomes the auto-sear, the entire front half of the rifle is the trigger.
I contend that what a bump stock does is make the trigger the entire front half of the gun and your finger is merely a passive mechanical part. Like, you could replace your finger with a bent fork glued onto the bump stock and it would still function as intended. Your finger becomes the auto-sear, the entire front half of the rifle is the trigger.
I’m all for gun control, though, I feel like banning bump stocks won’t do much. Aren’t they incredibly easy to make?
Yea, it’s from the hip, but it shows that you don’t need anything special to bump fire a gun.
All you need for bumpfire to happen is hold the gun in such a manner that the recoil pushes the gun away from your finger and you pulling forward causes your finger to hit the trigger.
People use beltloops as a way to keep your finger stationary. There are plenty of YouTube videos on how to do a bumpfire.
So can hunter biden buy a bump stock now? I am shocked that the NRA was not representing hunter.
He probably could, but he can’t buy a gun to put on it so what he’s got is a funny shaped ineffective club.
