and after casually admitting to dragnet mass surveillance, they had the audacity to later force a redaction. see below:

Offline some occupations also have a duty to report.

If someone buys large amounts of a certain fertilizer and the store owner don’t recall them being a local farmer. And it has to be that type specifically and not one of the other fertilizer types recommended. Its considered a red flag, and i think in such cases its fair

Thats no excuse for how little police respects privacy online at all. But you can see how its the same idea recycled.

There is a big difference between someone printing a gun and building an actual bomb.

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You’re probably talking about ammonium nitrate specifically. And once you’ve made your explosive with it, you still need to make something to detonate it, since it’s pretty stable without that; it’s not like sweating dynamite.

ANFO was used to blow up the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City, so the feds take that pretty seriously.

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2 points

You mean tannerite?

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No he means ammonium nitrate. It’s used as a fertilizer and when mixed with a fuel it becomes ANFO which is the explosive that McVeigh used in Oklahoma City.

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Not a clue, the people who told me about this system weren’t allowed to tell me any details.

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2 points

You are right. Fertilizer is a big boom when mixed with the right stuff.

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If a crime had been committed and could then be linked back to someone buying that fertilizer then sure. But doing so beforehand is wrong because

Privacy is not a crime.

Just because someone could use something for something bad doesn’t mean they will and I think it doesn’t mean they should be monitored before there is any other indication that they could be about to commit a crime. Sure if they bought a truckload of it that’s a red flag maybe but even then, we have really just given up privacy in such a way that something you buy that is a legal thing puts you on a list just for having bought it once.

How long until they monitor the States medical marijuana programs and kick in everyone’s door for conspiracy to commit a federal crime? Sounds far fetched doesn’t it?

Almost like being on a list for buying a 3D printer, or fertilizer. Pretty fucked up its like that to be honest. Is mass surveillance really the answer here?

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There is a big difference between someone printing a gun and building an actual bomb.

Imo, only if the bomb is passively a threat to others.

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Agree on the sentiment. But the bomb i meant is a different scale. if recreational or scientific explosives are what you want are you really going to do so using an actual truckload of industrial fertilizer? Most people don’t have that kind of pocket money to burn either.

Having done some research the most famous bombing using fertilizer was the Oklahoma city bombing in 95. Which used about 5000 pounds of fertilizer and resulted in the death of over 150 people. Over 600 injured.

A farmer may need more then 10 times that amount annually. So for them this is a normal purchase.

But if your not a farmer, requesting such amounts. It should be standard to at least show your Mythbusters member card instead or something.

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But the bomb i meant is a different scale. if recreational or scientific explosives are what you want are you really going to do so using an actual truckload of industrial fertilizer?

And in that case, the collection of explosives could potentially be a passive threat to others. Imo, the laws surrounding it should depend on the context — ie threat to public safety.

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40 points

500+ rounds? Oh my heavens! He was either preparing for a mass murder or an hour at the range.

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Lol and that’s an arsenal, I’ve gifted my friends and family more firearms than that.

500+ rounds of… probably 22lr…in a Winchester range pack lol

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An hour? Some weapons firing cyclic would burn through 500 rounds in less than a minute.

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Some highly regulated, very expensive to buy, and rare, weapons you mean. Full automatic weapons are far from the norm on any target range.

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1 point

We’re in a thread with guys building ghost guns. You realize how easy it is to build an automatic ghost gun instead of a semi auto? One part built differently, that’s it.

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Assuming a 500 rd mag and the fastest trigger pull in the west, sure. 99% of people won’t be able to burn 500 in a minute

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Cyclic implies automatic fire so really only one pull of the trigger.

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36 points

All this effort to stop someone from making their own gun but nothing to keep people from putting money in gun companies hands.

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Yeah, like…there’s nothing really stopping people from buying an arsenal through guns hows and stores. Like…this almost makes no sense. I get it, there are serial numbers and tracking means with manufacturer made guns. Is that the only reason? Because I’ve seen a few people with much bigger arsenals.

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Its because of the expectation of privacy. They think they know that anyone who would make a gun this way wants to do it in a way that keeps their privacy.

That is the issue they have.

Gun shows and stuff sure they know about that but they have tons of feds play dress up like normal people and go to those to phish for info. If they really want to they would check all the cameras which I would bet gold they 100% do.

But this is made for privacy and that’s why they view it as a problem.

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My neighbor cop is friends with the persons that owns the Amazon and FedEx local delivery companies.

Because of that friendship and me calling him a fascist they open my deliveries all the time for him.

When I accused him of it he told me to prove it.

Fucking fascists.

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You have to act chill in front of them or they can ruin your life.

Get together with like minded individuals and call them the fascist piece of shit pigs they are. But don’t do it to their face or they will hunt you like prey.

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When I accused him of it he told me to prove it.

I wonder if you could get a 360 camera that uploads to the cloud in real time and ship it to yourself?

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If you are able to list yourself as an Amazon seller, get this sort of camera and buy it so you can send it to the local Amazon center you might be able to get them.

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1 point

Time to buy some anthrax, I say

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8 points

Nah. Don’t hurt the guy in the post office just following orders.

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Cash.

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5 points

Monero

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12 points

I dont get the hate on monero is a super privacy effective currency

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9 points

I don’t get how a currency can be taken seriously when it’s value can swing 25% in a month

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Some people live their life by sound bites. They’ve been told crypto is bad, and a lot of crypto is, so they just downvote anything along those lines.

We are in a privacy community, talking about ways to buy things privately, using private digital money. The down voters have no replacement no alternative suggestion no way to do things privately other than stop doing things. It’s not productive, and if they do believe in privacy, it’s contrary to their goals.

For the people who are about to down vote me, please respond to this comment, and tell me how do you buy things online privately?

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I don’t understand how people are buying Monero or how it is possible to spend it. Who is selling 3D printers and gun parts for Monero without shipping it that this guy would have been able to get away with?

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There are several ways to buy it:

xmrbazaar.com Username: beta Password: tester click “Earn XMR”

Or if you already have 0.11XMR Haveno DEX

Or if you have another crypto Trocador (keep it under 1k USD and “A” or “B” rated to get insurance.

As for if anybody is selling 3D printed gun parts. I’m not sure.

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Why people hating on this? I guess the not psyop was very effective.

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