63 points

Ah shit, is this the time line where privacy isn’t needed cause people want better AI?

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People don’t need better AI. People are made to think they need better AI. Other than that yea

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I’m not going back to typing my grocery list manually. So I’m fucked in that part of my life.

Edit: thank you to everybody suggesting privacy preserving methods of grocery list maintenance. I’ve already considered them.

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I use „tasks“ for that. When i prepare to go grocery shopping I go to my fridge, open the completed „shopping“ tasks list and uncomplete what is empty. I then complete them again in the mall. Of course the list is hosted on my server.

You can also have a barcode scanner to automate the „done“ action. You could also put in a timer to automatically make things undone if they need regular buying.

In any case, using ai voice recognition for this is a massive waste of computing power for things that can be done by simple if else statements. Of course it is also a massive privacy invasion if you use big tech stuff for it.

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so voice typing, huh? not really sure it matters at this point. I use an open source keyboard, but my inputs go right into the OS of the worlds largest spy organization.

on the other hand… this is a great opportunity to hone your handwriting and memory skills.

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8 points

I mean you could also write your grocery list per hand.

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7 points

You could just write it down like some ancient wizard. Maybe even on a scroll of some sort.

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7 points

Get mental help I guess. It may help

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5 points

It seems a very valid reason to give up your privacy.

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4 points

You don’t write your grocery list on a bit of paper stuck to the fridge…? I thought that was downright universal

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2 points

I wonder if having your own self hosted local llm would be better then?

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4 points

Losing privacy for convenience has been happening. We use GPS on our smart phones for better directions. We install listening devices to add things to shopping carts and to play music by voice. We install cloud security cameras at home. We accept free WiFi in stores which gives them our cell phone info and our location. We use digital cash instead of physical cash. We buy things online rather than going to the store. Every device, like a toaster, has a MAC address.

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2 points

At least until Big Tech realizes that hallucinations in generative AI aren’t fixable and the whole stock market crashes.

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37 points

from the video…

I think we need to be very cautious with the AI narrative where we are being lead to confuse mass surveillance with intelligence and by doing so initiate these corporate technologies into the core of our social and governmental institutions.

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Did they mean “and be doing so insinuate” I wonder? Initiate makes some sense too, just odd phrasing.

Anyway! I’m getting sidetracked lol! Haven’t even watched the video yet. Thanks for sharing the quote

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there was a mental word search, glitch in the matrix moment right at that point - read into that what you will, cuz these days all options are valid.

“insinuate” is absolutely the very best word, but publicly one has to walk the fine line between complicity and hair-on-fire alarm, and so “initiate” came out of her mouth.

for the record, I think we are past the face-melting stage.

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2 points

Yeah that’s relatable. It’s so easy to pick apart someone else’s words when you’re just passively observing, but when it’s you in the moment…

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30 points

Why is Signal so reliant on Google? It’s not even in F-Droid

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There is a fork on F-Droid that isn’t reliant on Google push (it uses Unified Push) called Molly. I donate to both Molly and Signal.

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It is better than nothing

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Signal is using Google Push messaging, but it could be used with websocket. And officially it’s not on fdroid because they don’t want forks of their app

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Yet the Molly fork supports UnifiedPush so I can reuse my connection with mf XMPP server to deliver notification from a server I control. Folks have asked for UnifiedPush or MQTT as an alternative to having multiple persistent socket connections open on your device, but Signal doesn’t seem to care.

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How did you get Unified Push working? Last time I checked it required dedicated server side software

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How would that prevent you from forking the app? F-droid isn’t a repository for the code of the app. I don’t think this is related at all.

I don’t actually know the reason why it’s not on F-droid but I assume it has some historical reason. It has never been on F-drroid since Text-secure. Moxy Marlinspike was strictly against it afaik. If somebody has more detail on it, feel free to share it.

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You’re not allowed to upload apps with proprietary blobs. Google Push services is a proprietary blob.

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Because today if you find a Signal app on Fdroid you’re sure that it’s nonofficial, on the play store only one app is allowed, the official.

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I’m guessing its not fully open source, but I don’t actually know.

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The App is open source, but they include google push services, which is not

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2 points

It is fully open-source. The distribution of the application is completely unrelated. You can still read the code and verify the build you’re running.

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1 point

Thanks for the clarification.

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4 points

They are vehemently against self hosting as well.

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I have yet to meet a person who gives a shit about AI. I have yet to meet a person who has intentionally used AI. It’s all marketing bs and a way to mine our data.

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I had a classmate that was really exstatic about AI, like he basically believed its the second coming of christ. And then another one who was like “ohh look i can use this to make neat wallpapers”. That was about all the resonance i got from my social circles.

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I don’t like the idea o LLMs everywhere, but I do use chatgpt quite a lot as a point of entrance to any topic that I might not know the existence of yet

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Run a free model local

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I use LLMs just about every day. It’s better than web-search for certain things, and is useful for some coding tasks. I think they’re over-hyped by some people, but they are useful.

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I’m in university. Every student uses chatGPT. Constantly.

In our last exam, the prof basically just said “cat’s out of the bag, you can use chatGPT in the exam” (he gives open note exams).

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It isn’t.

I runs it local on my machine

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3 points

How else is AI supposed to grow? It’s supposed to observe everything in existence.

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Then maybe it shouldn’t grow.

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It’s why I’m not exactly a big fan of AI. The possibility that it can get out of control is worrisome.

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