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This would be more suited for asklemmy, this community isn’t for opinion discussions

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No - I don’t agree that they’re completely different.

“Made by AI” would be completely different.

“Made with AI” actually means pretty much the exact same thing as “AI was used in this image” - it’s just that the former lays it out baldly and the latter softens the impact by using indirect language.

I can certainly see how “photographers” who use AI in their images would tend to prefer the latter, but bluntly, fuck 'em. If they can’t handle the shame of the fact that they did so they should stop doing it - get up off their asses and invest some time and effort into doing it all themselves. And if they can’t manage that, they should stop pretending to be artists.

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I think it is a bit of an unclear wording personally. “Made with”, despite technically meaning what you’re saying, is often colloquially used to mean “fully created by”. I don’t mind the AI tag, but I do see the photographers point about it implying wholesale generation instead of touchups.

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I think every touch up besides color correction and cropping should be labeled as “photoshopped”. And any usage of AI should be labeled as “Made with AI” because it cannot show which parts are real and which are not.

Besides, this is totally a skill issue. Removing this metadata is trivial.

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Agreed. Photo editing has great applications but we can’t pretend it’s never used maliciously.

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Some of the more advanced color correction tools can drastically change an image. There’s a lot of gray in that line as well.

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DOD Imagery guidelines state that only color correction can be applied to “make the image appear the same as it was when it was captured” otherwise it must be labeled “DOD illustration” instead of “DOD Imagery”

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Cropping can completely change the context of a photo.

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Sure But you could also achieve a similar effect in-camera by zooming in or moving closer to the subject

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A lot of photographers will take a photo with the intention of cropping it. Cropping isn’t photoshopping.

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Image manipulation is still image manipulation

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If I open an image in Photoshop and crop it, it’s photoshopping.

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Film too, any trickery in the darkroom should be labeled because it cannot show which parts are real and which are not.

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What do you mean by real

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Why label it if it is trivial to avoid the label?

Doesn’t that mean that bad actors will have additional cover for misise of AI?

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Yes

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This isn’t really Facebook. This is Adobe not drawing a distinction between smart pattern recognition for backgrounds/textures and real image generation of primary content.

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Better title: “Photographers complain when their use of AI is identified as such”

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“It was just a so little itsy bitsy teeny weeny AI edit!!”

Please don’t flag AI please!

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People are complaining that an advanced fill tool that’s mostly used to remove a smudge or something is automatically marking a full image as an AI creation. As-is if someone actually wants to bypass this “check” all they have to do is strip the image’s metadata before uploading it.

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