A new survey found that almost 40% of companies posted a fake job listing this year — and 85% of those companies interviewed candidates for fake jobs

Companies said they are posting fake jobs for a laundry list of reasons, including to deceive their own employees.

More than 60% of those surveyed said they posted fake jobs “to make employees believe their workload would be alleviated by new workers.”

Sixty-two percent of companies said another reason for the shady practice is to “have employees feel replaceable.”

Two-thirds of companies cited a desire to “appear the company is open to external talent” and 59% said it was an effort to “collect resumes and keep them on file for a later date.”

What’s even more concerning about the results: 85% of companies engaging in the practice said they interviewed candidates for the fake jobs.

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This should be illegal. It’s basically scamming people into giving their personal information, a very sensitive ones.

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and their time and stress. job hunting is awful

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Good luck proving it.

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We had a case not too long ago where someone “recruiting” for one of the GAFAM who was stealing PII by “accepting” applicants, getting their IDs and personal info for supposed employment, and when these people showed up for work, the real company had never heard of them. I think they got 30 people last time.

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Well that’s a whole other can of worms.

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you could just, idk, fine job listings that are up too long without a hire.

Too long being like 1 yr

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That means nothing. Sometimes it takes a while.

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Still doesn’t change the fact that those companies are exploiting people

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Interestingly, in my profession the media is saying that they’re screaming for people, my peak association is saying that we should issue Visa’s for international recruitment.

That same peak body is publishing articles saying that our profession is demanding too much pay.

Meanwhile with 40 years experience, I’ve spent the past 30 months looking for the next opportunity, getting ignored or worse, getting told that my application won’t be pursued without any explanation. Demoralising is not strong enough to convey the impact of such a response.

I speak with my peers with similar levels of experience and they’re seeing exactly the same thing.

I hung my shingle out 25 years ago as an independent consultant, been through several downturns across my career, but I’ve never seen anything like this.

I think that we’ve gotten to the point where the free market has broken and government intervention is required.

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Did somebody say trust busting?

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Please Eli5 trust busting

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Here’s an old political cartoon trying to explain it, but if you would rather read.

https://www.ushistory.org/us/43b.asp

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You know how corporations acquire other corporations and the government dramatically reviews it for a period of time and then allows it? Trust busting is like that, but in reverse. We just need to do the opposite of what we do now. Instead of watching corporations acquire each other and get bigger, we should be busting them apart into separate entities.

Specifically, it’s supposed to prevent business agreements and practices that are intended to hinder the ability of others to be competitive or do their own business. IOW, it prevents monopolies and industry consolidation.

Here are a few examples of why robust anti-trust laws are needed, and need to be enforced:

  1. Everything Walmart has ever done.

  2. Everything Amazon has ever done.

  3. ISPs preventing competitors from moving into their territory so they can keep prices artificially high and quality of service low.

  4. Everything Microsoft has ever done with Windows and what they’re currently trying to do with their gaming division.

  5. The way Apple operates their App Store.

  6. Everything Nestle has ever done.

  7. Everything Google has been doing.

I mean just look at the state of the corporate world. We got here by an endless string of unhindered massive acquisitions and undercutting competitors. Now prices go up and quality of goods go down because no one can compete, and your “choice”, when there is a choice at all, is between 2 or 3 shitty products created by corporations that operate with the exact same min-max business model.

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A monopoly is also called a trust and to quote Wiki: “antitrust law is a collection of mostly federal laws that regulate the conduct and organization of businesses in order to promote competition and prevent unjustified monopolies.”

Trust busting means breaking up corporate monopoly or oligopoly.

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By issuing visas, they could import a cheap workforce that might be willing to work for half of what they pay you. So everyone wins (except you, of course, but you knew that already).

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I had multiple interviews with a company and was told they went so well they stopped interviewing other candidates. The interviews did go quite well. Then they hired internally.

It was a bullshit short term contract anyway, but that’s the best interview I’ve had in 3 months of searching. I don’t know if that counts as a “fake” job, but it was a huge waste of everyone’s time.

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Employers must consistently make employees think that there is a reserve army of labor waiting to take their jobs, that way the employees will tolerate more abuse and will fear asking for more from their employers.

It is the same reason why the corporations fight against the implementation of social services, why “benefits” like healthcare are tied to work, and why the social services that do exist come with a work requirement.

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They don’t want the unemployment rate to get too low

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Yeah, no shit.

Another fun setup are the job postings put up so that a company can interview a bunch of people with no intent to hire them, claim none of the candidates are capable and then use that as evidence for the need for an H1B visa worker who they pay a cut rate salary. Good times.

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