Vote anyways

Goddammit. I’m having flashbacks to the 2020 primaries.

Fuck the low level of civic education in this fucking country.

[gently blows the dust off my ‘Bernie’ sticker]

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In all fairness, educated people are far less likely to vote against their own interests.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/

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That’d be the liberal indoctrination machine at work you see. No it has nothing to do with world experience and exposure to ideals outside the conservative bubble. That’s just commie talk.

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16 points

The American General Education Board was created and defined by Rockefeller Republicanism to help students focus on vocation over education.

https://medium.com/@sofialherani/the-dark-truth-of-the-educational-system-shaped-by-john-d-rockefeller-77bf1b0167dd

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59 points

He’s the face of why ya gotta vote. All the DNC trickery in the world woulda meant nothing if y’all turned out on primary day with the same energy y’all spend on cursing everyone else for doing it and not voting for him.

He coulda won, by a landslide, and he didn’t because he deserved better than his own supporters.

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22 points

The progressive paradox. Progressive ideas and politicians are soooo popular but there’s always a reason they lost and it’s never because progressives don’t turn out.

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12 points

Honestly it’s not at all surprising,

Of course the don’t vote crowd would think that other people voting despite them not voting is the enemy putting the fix in

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In many states we did. He took more of Virgina and West Virginia than Hillary did, and their delegates still voted for Hilary at the DNC national convention. This happened in a ton of states before California, the only state that the DNC electors “officially” gave to Bernie, even had their primary. It was so bad that almost 50% of the lifelong Californian Democrats left the party for NPP registration, which is better in California, in my opinion, since No Party Preference allows one to vote in all the primaries, as well as the general.

That bullshit “vote” was, and probably still is, rigged. They won’t let us vote for AOC if she ever runs for president. We need to destroy every political party and force candidates to run on policy and ideals.

Washington understood that direct democratic communism was the best method of choosing leaders, and laws, well before either concept was even available.

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See you say all that but when you look at the actual documented results it shows that Bernie got blown out in the popular vote and was actually unduly benefited by the delegate system proportional to how many people actually voted for him.

Stop making excuses, he lost because millenials and zoomers can’t be assed to even turn out at their share of the national population, let alone the easy dominating share they could take within the democratic party.

There were like 30 million ballots cast max in the 2016 primary, that is fucking nothing. The fact that Bernie didn’t landslide with as few as 15 million votes for his opponent is down to the fact that his supporters are loud obnoxious do nothings who have to be dragged by their hair and locked in the booth with no internet connection to even begin considering casting the fucking ballot.

Fuck wanting to vote for someone, fuck wanting to be inspired, fuck your prayers for the rapture revolution to come and solve everything for you. Do your duty to those who genuinely cannot protect themselves and cast that boring milquetoast ballot while we fucking have them for you to bitch and moan about it not being exciting enough.

America’s most vulnerable can’t afford for you to shirk your responsibility because the party’s manager didn’t deliver enough pizzazz and pandering to your karen ass self.

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5 points

You can say all that but the fact remains that there was record turnout for the 2016 primary, and we got told to sit down and shut up.

I’m gen X, btw.

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The issue wasn’t that people didn’t show up. There was record turnout for a primary race. The issue was concerns about electability. The talking heads kept repeating incessantly that Biden had the better shot at beating Trump. It was complete bullshit based off polls, but people believed it. Beating Trump was the top priority with policy taking a back seat. The position we are in now is the universe’s sense of irony.

The thing that fucks American elections isn’t our abysmal turnout. It’s the complete lack of civic involvement between elections that makes voters easily malleable by expensive ad campaigns.

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10 points

I did vote for him and he did win the California primary. But yea

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10 points

I voted for him too, the problem isn’t the people who did, it’s the people who really wanted him to win but decided it was everyone else’s job to turn up on Primary Day.

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3 points

By the time the Illinois primary came around, it was already over. He still got my vote, for what it was worth.

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6 points

One fucking HUNDRED percent! Well said.

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The progressive flank in this country could have anything it wants, but what it needs most today is a plan. Too many of us have fallen victim to the rapturous thinking that one day something will snap, be the straw that broke the camel’s back be the point of no return for the depravity of the right, and revolution will come to even the deepest red rural corners of this land made for you and me.

It’s the same as the western misconception of Karma. Karma isn’t “what goes around comes around” it’s a caution that behaving selfishly destroys the world around you and causes others to do the same in ways that will ultimately negatively impact you too. Karma isn’t the assurance that one day they’ll get theirs, it’s the fact that justice will not come unless you break the cycle and project justice into your world.

We need organization, actual, coordinated accountable, organization. We need national cooperation, and we need effort down to the individual.

Most importantly, we need our own manifesto. The Republicans have Project 2025, they have a plan, this plan can be put to action at any time provided they get the white house, they have something they get to take to the public and sell as what they plan to do.

We need A Project for All. A coalescence of every idea we single issue over, and quite a few that we haven’t even thought of yet as a political community into a coordinated policy package that we can sell as what exactly we plan to do.

We need to give a solid plan of what Joe Detroit can expect of the transition period from the current medical system to M4A. We need to be able to tell Margaret from Georgia exactly how she benefits from cracking the supreme court into a sortitionate office that randomly selects its jurors from the pool of all federal judges, and we gotta let Pennsylvania hear how they stand to gain from a world where lawyer and legal fees are not passed to the litigants and instead covered by the state.

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Too many of us have fallen victim to the rapturous thinking that one day something will snap, be the straw that broke the camel’s back be the point of no return for the depravity of the right, and revolution will come to even the deepest red rural corners of this land made for you and me.

It’s just religious thinking from people who were driven away from the church. They still think the same way. They’re just on a different side now. They don’t care about plans or processes or how to achieve their goals. They only care about martyrdom and salvation from the heavens.

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Dude… I wish I could award gold to you because I would. This was VERY well said.

Seriously… Thanks for writing it out.

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2 points

Didn’t the DNC do a fuckery to not nominate him and then it was decided that they’re allowed to do fuckery because it’s a private institution?

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Didn’t the DNC do a fuckery to not nominate him

No, not even close.

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30 points

Loving that Bernie somehow aged better than either of our options.

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All of the people who have worked so fervently to suppress and brigade any person who dare say that Biden is unfit for office and that the Democrats need to produce an alternative.

Now the DNC has a shocked pikachu face that he is unfit for office and they need to produce an alternative.

If only we didn’t have Blue MAGA boot lickers muddying the water for the past 3 years, we had already gone about the process, and this debate featured someone who was fit for the office.

Trump literally shit his pants on stage (there was a point when his microphone was on where you audibly hear him fill his pamper) while doing nothing but lying and dropping buzz words and Biden STILL resoundingly lost the debate.

Somehow found a way to top Boat-Shark-Electricity with Abortion-Civil Rights-Immigrant murderer.

Fuck.

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Hearing “Trump is a threat to democracy” from Democrat leadership has started to make me seethe. They think it’s a one-way responsibility: we the voters are obligated to show up to vote for whoever they put in front of us, but they feel no responsibility to switch to a better candidate.

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Resoundingly lost the debate?

That’s insane.

At least he answered the questions correctly, building off solid domestic policy over the past four years.

Dumps didn’t tell the truth at all, and that s*** doesn’t fly like it did 8 years ago.

They don’t need an alternative, people need to vote.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8eMauO_T88

Answered the questions correctly?

I can hardly even make out words.

What I could pick out, translated to (as) coherent (as possible) English:

“A young woman who just was murdered, and he went to the funeral, and the idea she was murdered by an immigrant coming in, they talk about that. Here’s the deal, there’s a lot of young women being raped by their in-laws, by their spouses, brothers and sisters. I, wah, jus, jusjusjus ridiculous. You can do nothing about it. And they try to arrest them when they go across state lines.”

In what world do you live in where that is “correctly answering” a question about abortion?

You really need to stop sabotaging the Democrat party with your Blue MAGA horse-shit.

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Quit projecting your sabotage.

I didn’t say that he answered every question exactly how you personally want it to be answered.

Also, that’s the one clip that’s been posted on every news site, did you even watch the debate?

He’s old.,you crybaby.

If you’ve ever spoken to an old person, that’s what they sound like sometimes.

It doesn’t change that he’s been doing a good job for 4 years.

You can vote for the rapist, I’m going to keep going with the guy who invests in clean, sustainable energy, legislates new civil rights, provides funding for health care and told Walmart and other corporates to lower their prices.

You’re so transparent.

Literally the only people who say blue maga are actual maga people.

Maga’s an idiot fascist rapist slogan, so you can keep it to yourself and quit projecting it onto liberals.

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The delivery was bad but it makes sense: A woman was murdered by an immigrant, he (Trump) went to the funeral and tries to demagogue it. Meanwhile Republicans are passing laws to criminalize abortion and prosecute women who try to travel to other states after they’re raped by people they know. So Trump and his party don’t give a shit about prosecuting rapes or protecting women, they just want to demonize immigrants and control women’s bodies.

Edit: You also left out the preceding lines where he talks about Georgia and other states legislating a six-week abortion ban, which sets up the point more clearly.

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You are entitled to your opinion but a large majority of voters disagree with you. So it’s a problem regardless of how you perceived it.

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That large majority of voters already disagreed with me before the debate, so the point is moot.

I don’t care what people who can’t think critically are thinking.

It’s like being upset with a child.

Speak for yourself, don’t pretend you’re speaking for anyone else.

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Now the DNC has a shocked pikachu face that he is unfit for office and they need to produce an alternative.

If only we had some kind of “pre election” where members of the party got to hear from potential candidates and their positions so the party can be sure they’re putting forth the best possible candidate…

Edit:

Maybe call it: The Primary?

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We have to save democracy from Trump, so we can’t afford the luxury of a primary election. /s

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Its fine. We’ll have a new slate of candidates in a couple weeks.

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Bernie/Ro Khanna can still happen.

Either one of them in the President slot, either one of them in the VP slot.

They will win all day.

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I mean, look. I was on both of Bernie’s campaigns. I put in thousands of calls for the guy. But brother, Its a pipe dream. Bernie polls 20-25 points ahead of both Trump and Biden. It wouldn’t be a W, it would be a Blue version of this map. Bernie would CRUSH Trump.

But its not going to happen. The DNC would rather lose to Trump than ever consider a genuine socialist. I would LOVE to be wrong on this, but its not going to happen.

Honestly, we could probably get Katie Porter through the wickets. We could probably get Gretchen Witmer through. I think we could get Inslee in. I’d put each of these at less that 20% stand alone probability.

Honestly, the best bet, the one I think has both the highest probability of getting the nom, and can actually win:

Andy Beshear

He’s a somewhat progressive southern > two term < Democratic governor.

He’s won Kentucky. Twice. Hes “a bit” progressive, but not a Bernie or a Ro Khanna.

You know who else was a two term, southern, slightly progressive governor?

Bill Clinton.

I’ll bet Bernie with my heart. I bet its going to be Andy Beshear with my wallet.

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If this wasn’t on xitter I’d say this need a post on its own.

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Agreed. I just can’t rip the video with my phone. I’ll post it once i am on my computer.

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Not great when that show ended with industry collapsing the biosphere and destroying civilization.

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It was Cyberpunk in disguise.

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